Why a knockdown MUST be scored 10-8

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  1. clyde

    clyde Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No difference, but as far as I'm aware 9-9 rounds are allowed if the rules are correctly applied....though it rarely happens.
     
  2. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the judges dont have to score a 10 8 if they dont want neither they can score it what they want
     
  3. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    I dislike how there is no distinction between for instance, an off balance flash knockdown (which is really is only a slip with some help from a punch), and a punch which seriously hurts an opponent (but maybe happens 10 secs from the end of a round, and the fighter gets no time to finish him. Regardless, both are usually given 10-8.

    The knockdown scoring rule take no account the severity, or cleanliness of the knockdown.
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact is the judges don't know the rules themselves in most cases, so score the round 10-8 to keep it nice and safe.
     
  5. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru6OpUosanw&feature=related[/ame]

    Ok imagine the above was considered a knock down , should it be a 10 - 8 round?

    I dont think so.

    If a fighter scores a knock down , but doesnt win the round then it cannot be anymore than a 10 - 9.
     
  6. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    A knock down is a very significant part of a fight , the concept is simple , if you score a KD you gain 2 points on your opponent automatically , i think the cap fits perfectly to be honest .

    The problem with KD's is interpreting what is and what isnt , although some ref's can get the odd one wrong generally they get most of them right .
     
  7. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    According to the rules, it does not have to be scored 10-8, though it usually is.
     
  8. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    A knock down is a much more significant event than Floyd jabbing Zab's head around for 3 minutes , Judah should take some sort of advantage into the next round of the fight for putting Floyd on the canvas (obviously speaking hypothetically for example purposes) .

    IMO this round would of been a 10 - 9 Judah round your right , but in no way regardless of the outcome of the rest of the round should somebody who's been down win a round .
     
  9. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    not if the fighter who was knocked down had won that round
     
  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    No they're not. They didn't call it the 'ten point must system' for no reason at all, see.

    The only way you'll ever end up with a 9-9 round is where the referee has deducted a point for a foul from the fighter that the judge considers the round winner. However even in that case the judge has scored 10 points to the round winner and then deducted one after the decision to reflect the referees deduction.
     
  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Threadstarter is completely wrong though.

    See Cunningham v Adamek for a textbook example of a round containing a knockdown that should undoubtedly be scored 10-9. I don't think there's an argument you can make that that should have been a 10-8 round.
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Correct score would be 10-9 in favour of the fighter scoring the knockdown. Again, see Adamek vs Cunningham.
     
  13. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Knockdowns should get that extra point. It's too siginificant not to reward it. You wanna know how to overcome the deficit caused by knockdowns? Knock your opponent down back. Problem solved.
     
  14. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I've only seen the fight once, from what i saw Hopkins wasn't dominating in such a fashion that this should be brought up. Knockdowns shouldn't be understated, they're not just like a flick of the wrist or something like that. On the assessment of the whole of that round, the knockdown was enough for me to give it 10-8 and be fine with it. All a kd is in terms of the cards, is effectively a point deduction. For example, i win a round, it is scored 10-9, i win a round and knock my man down, it is scored 10-8, you lose a point for touching down. That's why to me, it seems logical that in this scenario-

    i'm dominating my opponent, he then scores a flash kd over me, i get up and dominate him until the end of the round

    It should be scored 9-9, because i'm winning, which is 10-9 for me, but i lose the point for the kd, ie 9-9. This will never happen though, seen as though it is 10 point MUST, so for me 10-10 is the best answer, because that is effectively the same thing. But this isn't what happens, if you score a kd you win 10-8 regardless of the rest of the round, i strongly disagree with it, but it's just the way it is, and i wish they'd stop it.
     
  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Pac beat the **** out of Marquez that round and KD'd him 3 times. Of course he deserves a ridiculously wide round.