There are many good past fighters that we don't know too many about. Fighters ranked in top 10, contenders or even brief champions. Their names are on resumes of many great fighters but we don't recognize them, we threat them just like another name and not like a solid win. I would like to compare them here to more modern and more known fighters of today. You may compare them style wise ex. Cleveland Williams-Razor Ruddock (don't know if this is the best comparsion) or in the term of difficulty or quality ex Nino Valdes-Tony Thompson (not sure again). I will throw some names: Roland LaStarza Roy Harris Lee Q Murray Tony Licata Tony Mundine Tommy Jackson Coley Wallace Duane Bobick Johnny Summerlin Bob Baker Omelio Agramonte Cesar Brion Lee Savold Roscoe Toles Johnny Risko
I'll give some of these a try for fun: Nino Valdez=Tough guage. Big durable guy with a strong jab, claimed to be avoided. Quite a force at his best, some really great wins, top contender for many years, but inconsistent. Pinklon Thomas or Ruddock but a much stronger resume. Roland LaStarza=Chris Byrd...successful long time contender, criticized for defensive mind set and lack of offense, makes opponents look bad. Byrd has a better resume though. Lee Q Murray=Ron Lyle maybe but deeper resume. Long time contender, Big with a decent punch and skills. Bob Baker=Tim Witherspoon. Inconsistent big, skilled, puncher. Lots of ups and downs. Tommy Jackson=Oliver McCall. Durable and unpredictable. Good wins, bad loses. Coley Wallace=Michael Grant. Ceaser Brion=Ray Mercer. Failed prospect turned tough gate keeper. Omelio Agramonte=Difficult spoiler, briefly claimed a ranking. Tony Tubbs, Mathis Jr., or something.
who are you what are you talking about do you know me you seem very interested in my posts i have only heard of lastarza the rest i have never heard of:think
i am a boxing historian and other than lastarza i have never encountered nor read about any of the rest i am not going to go and rack my brains out to find some book on unknowns:think
yeah dude, no offense but as historian there are some keys names on there to know. i mean, even bobick should be known if only as a ****ing joke
so why dont you post something and try and make some sort of comparison i have never heard of these guys and i only know lastarza because he fought marciano:think
Valdez doesn't look near the quality of Thomas/Rudduck on film, he looks more like a smaller Sugar Valuev
hahahahahaha i am not claming to be a historian and probably most people here know more about boxing then i do. but even i know more fellows from that list then you. WOW that makes me smarter then a real historian.
:dead Oh, please. In terms of pure ability and style, Valdez and Ruddock is a fair analogy. Both had strong jabs when they used them but utlimately they were defenseless brawlers that relied far too much on their size, power, and durability to overhwelm their opposition. Valuev is slower than both men and lacking in punching as well as physical power, he would never be able to crowd and maul an Ezzard Charles to a point victory. Sugar Valuev is another story however.