Comparing classic to modern fighters thread

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by jaffay, Dec 23, 2010.

  1. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    There are many good past fighters that we don't know too many about. Fighters ranked in top 10, contenders or even brief champions. Their names are on resumes of many great fighters but we don't recognize them, we threat them just like another name and not like a solid win. I would like to compare them here to more modern and more known fighters of today. You may compare them style wise ex. Cleveland Williams-Razor Ruddock (don't know if this is the best comparsion) or in the term of difficulty or quality ex Nino Valdes-Tony Thompson (not sure again).

    I will throw some names:

    Roland LaStarza
    Roy Harris
    Lee Q Murray
    Tony Licata
    Tony Mundine
    Tommy Jackson
    Coley Wallace
    Duane Bobick
    Johnny Summerlin
    Bob Baker
    Omelio Agramonte
    Cesar Brion
    Lee Savold
    Roscoe Toles
    Johnny Risko
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I'll give some of these a try for fun:

    Nino Valdez=Tough guage. Big durable guy with a strong jab, claimed to be avoided. Quite a force at his best, some really great wins, top contender for many years, but inconsistent. Pinklon Thomas or Ruddock but a much stronger resume.
    Roland LaStarza=Chris Byrd...successful long time contender, criticized for defensive mind set and lack of offense, makes opponents look bad. Byrd has a better resume though.
    Lee Q Murray=Ron Lyle maybe but deeper resume. Long time contender, Big with a decent punch and skills.
    Bob Baker=Tim Witherspoon. Inconsistent big, skilled, puncher. Lots of ups and downs.
    Tommy Jackson=Oliver McCall. Durable and unpredictable. Good wins, bad loses.
    Coley Wallace=Michael Grant. :lol:
    Ceaser Brion=Ray Mercer. Failed prospect turned tough gate keeper.
    Omelio Agramonte=Difficult spoiler, briefly claimed a ranking. Tony Tubbs, Mathis Jr., or something.
     
  3. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    is this a trick question beside lastarza i have never heard of any of these others:think
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And yet you jump into every thread and claim that the fighters who beat them would lose ... :roll:
     
  5. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    who are you what are you talking about do you know me you seem very interested in my posts i have only heard of lastarza the rest i have never heard of:think
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Perhaps you need to do some more reading. Those names are hardly obscure.
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just f*ck off.
     
  8. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    i am a boxing historian and other than lastarza i have never encountered nor read about any of the rest i am not going to go and rack my brains out to find some book on unknowns:think
     
  9. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    yeah dude, no offense but as historian there are some keys names on there to know. i mean, even bobick should be known if only as a ****ing joke
     
  11. mister

    mister Active Member Full Member

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    so why dont you post something and try and make some sort of comparison i have never heard of these guys and i only know lastarza because he fought marciano:think
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Valdez doesn't look near the quality of Thomas/Rudduck on film, he looks more like a smaller Sugar Valuev
     
  13. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    :rofl :patsch
     
  14. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    hahahahahaha i am not claming to be a historian and probably most people here know more about boxing then i do. but even i know more fellows from that list then you. WOW that makes me smarter then a real historian.
     
  15. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Oh, please. In terms of pure ability and style, Valdez and Ruddock is a fair analogy. Both had strong jabs when they used them but utlimately they were defenseless brawlers that relied far too much on their size, power, and durability to overhwelm their opposition. Valuev is slower than both men and lacking in punching as well as physical power, he would never be able to crowd and maul an Ezzard Charles to a point victory. Sugar Valuev is another story however.