Works against old slow Ray Austin, doubt it'd catch prime Tyson though. Interesting point but I'm 100% confident WALDO with his skill-set and mental fragility could keep prime Tyson off him for more than a round.
No excuses, Wlad lost those fights against Purrity, Sanders & Brewster...............but there's a reason for everything.
Name your top 10 WALDO wins. If the name 'Ray Mercer' is in there like it is with every other Klit fan-boy then your above argument is invalid. I can bring up WALDOS 7 round bore-fest against Rahman too, if you like? All relevent dude if that's the path you choose to go down, same as VITLAY going the distance against the dinosaur of Shannon Briggs.
But there's no 'reason' for Tyson losing to Douglas, Holyfield or Lewis? Or Ali to Berbick? You're getting more amusing by the minute, keep it up.
It's plain ignorant to call '98 Wlad "prime" in any way. His weight has been very consistent throughout his career making his current version as "phyiscally prime" as the one in the late 90s. I like Tyson so I actually do not intend to deepen this stupid conversation but Tyson was considered prime until the night right before he stepped in the ring with Douglas (1:42 underdog or something?) and suddenly became shot over night in his mid-20s. So how credible does that sound to you? Wlad's losses happened ages ago and he hasn't slipped once since then. As I said, I like Tyson for who he was. When he felt his opponent is hopelessly inferior he knew how to deal with him and he did that in a spectacular fashion unlike Wladimir who lets his opponent hang around for way too long even though he'd be capable of getting rid of them any time he wants. Who didn't love what Tyson did? Other than that, I must admit to be one them who do not believe that MT was the uber wrecking machine H2H GOAT. Tyson, as close to his prime as it gets, was in the ring with an okay fighter und looked ... unimpressive. So you wanna tell me his mental state was responsible for his performance? Well, in fact I don't deny that but in reality neither you nor I can prove that. A professional athlete has to push private things aside when he's in the ring no matter how hard it is. Some boxers use private set-backs as an additional motivation to deliver in the ring but Tyson obviously didn't and IMO that's an absolutly legit reason to question his legacy as harsh as it sounds. I mean, you're aware that he never won a significant fight after that. You know, Tyson is a fighter with criminal background who was picked up by D'amato and trained to be the youngest HW champ in the history of the division. Soon after that it became evident that's he's unable to handle all the hype surround him making him mentally unstable and eventually making him lose his world title. Shortly after that he found himself in jail. No need to go any further with Tyson's biography as I'm not teaching you anything you didn't already know, I suppose. So basically his life is a from zero to hero to zero story with more tragic than great moments. In Wlad you have a fighter who was a gold medalist in 96 and who was considered the next Lennox Lewis at the beginning of the 2000s. Following his convincing performances against Mercer, McCline and so on he seemed to confirm what many had thought of him. Within 1,5 years in 2003 und 2004 his early but promising career appeared to have come to an end with two devastating losses against Sanders and Brewster. At that time print and online magazines dropped him off any decent HW list and labeled him as the infinitely inferior Klit brother. Nevertheless Wlad was aware of his capabilites and chose the undefeated and very dangerous Sam Peter soon after his losses only to dominate him in every round bar the KD rounds. You've probably noticed that Wlad has developed into the most feared and most dominant HW champion of our time despite being on the ground six years before? How is that not a WAY WAY WAY!!! better story than Tyson's? Wlad went from zero to hero to zero and finally to ATG when everybody had lost the belief in him. Imagine if a criminal afro American fighter from the Bronx achieved the same - instant HOF, don't you think? Wlad's absolutely capable of surpassing Tyson in HW alltime rankings considering that Tysons doesn't even have such a killer resume. With the quality of opponents running around at the moment Wlad will have a hard time topping that but he should be ranked higher than him on domination alone in case Wlad continues to dominate the division with wins over Haye, Adamek and Povetkin.
So do your ortography-skills... Is English your first language? If so i think it is quite sad you dont get the difference between your and you're, it's not that difficult dude... I think Wlad would be a terrible matchup for Mike stylewise but the question is if he could take the psychological stress and intimidation-factor associated with fighting a prime-Tyson.
For instance the reason Mike lost to Buster is because he took him lightly, he was drunk with the lifestyle & he had crack dealers working his corner that night. For instance Vitali lost to Byrd because he injured his shoulder early in the fight and retired on his stool rather than risk permanant damage. For instance...................
I agree 100%. Of course I base my opinion on the very best version of each fighter but who does that nowadays? :yep There is a serious chance that the mystique & aura of fighting a prime Tyson could make a fighter very tentative................he was a bad man & he would kill you if he could. I don't doubt that part.
Ah, a troll, greatatsch Prime Tyson would have scared the living **** out of WALDO. WALDO doesn't do intimidation, he just ends up sounding like a homo. Feel free to point out grammatical errors in that at your leisure. I saw prime Tyson, I saw prime WALDO and I know who the greater man is, and it sure as **** ain't WALDO. Neither Klit could put a dent in prime Tyson, they'd have been relativerly easy fights due to the fragile mentality of the Klits.
Lewis said himself you need an uppercut to beat Tyson. He watched Douglas do it and followed suit. Wlad has no uppercut, is prone to panic attacks, cannot fight on the inside and has a glass jaw. It is completely ridiculous to pick Wladamir Klitschko over a prime Mike Tyson.
So now Vitali is mentally fragile too? :huh That's a new one on me...............you got me there.:roll:
Lewis had a great uppercut, far better than the uppercut Wlad has, which he rarely uses. All true. Wlad has roughly equal power in his right hand & probably a better left hook and def. a better jab than Lewis. The real point is Buster didn't have near the power Wlad has in either hand and his jab wasn't anywhere near as good or powerful either. That's not to knock Buster's jab because he did have a decent one, just ask Mike.
Buster had speed, skills, combos, a decent chin, could fight on the inside and a great upper cut. Wlad is a predictable (yet effective) one two guy with a great jab, no uppercut, no inside game and a glass jaw. He has no chance against a prime Mike Tyson, none.
I just think that his reasoning wasn't that bad and there was no need to call him out on his "debating-skills", so i wanted to give you a taste of your own medicine :hey. I'm not here to give grammar-lessons and i don't think s*** like that matters as long as the reasoning is valid to be honest. You probably have a point concerning Wlad, i see him struggeling under the mental pressure, with Vitaly it's a different story. Vitaly has a bigger heart and a better chin than Wlad plus he won't be intimidated by anyone, making him a much bigger threat imo.