the version of lyle who fought foreman in the era of marciano.

Lyle and his "power" are two of the more over rated things on this board.

Lyle was a decent boxer with OK power and questionable durability. Marciano would walk him down and Charles/Walcott would decision him clearly enough. Lyle would be a good fighter just as he was in the 70's but not a champion.

 

Lyle didn't crush Shavers.

If anything, this fight shows that Lyle's "murderous" power is just a myth. He had to land bombs on the chinny Shavers for 6 rounds before he fell, and even then it was from accumulation and exhaustion.

 

who ****ing hell was page,smith,snipes or bruno? pure garbage simple, the only decent was tubbs.
bonavena(who fought a very close fight with joe frazier,who did beat chuvalo,zora foley,peralta,leotis martin..),bugner,jimmy ellis(who did beat floyd patterson,jerry quarry,chuvalo), buster mathis,peralta were better fighters who fought in a better era., and you are very boring repeating 100 times "chinny " shavers,this "chinny shavers did put down the ass of prime holmes, this "chinny" shavers destroyed jimmy ellis,norton (who did beat ali), joe bugner.. this chinny shavers was much harder puncher than marciano with both hands. change the argument , simply an advice.

 

1_ you are in every post about lyle saying always the same history " lyle is overrated, his power is overrated" blablabla, but the facts are that he is UNDERRATED and his hitting power and his great strength is underrated.
2_ lyle had much more than "ok" power
3_ the era of lyle was better than the era of marciano by a mile, so he would have been much better in this era.

 

yes he did

 

1_lyle was 1 year older than bonavena, oscar did beat every rival after of the fight against lyle.
2-ellis is just 1 year older than lyle, ellis was 34 and lyle 33.
3_like i said... page,smith,snipes or bruno were pure garbage. tubbs was the only decent fighter, so how he had better resume

 

it is absolutely absurd .
valuev was the champ, and? he is a complete bum too. it prove nothing.
even a grandfather shavers almost killed a prime james tillis(who fought every round against mike tyson), imagine a prime sshavers.simply they fought in a harder era. bruno was destroyed by every decent fighter that he faced. if you are comparing bruno or smith with shavers, bonavena, jimmy ellis, peralta.. you are drunk

 

1_ post lyle ,bonavena fought 7 times and he won every fight by ud or ko, and then he was murdered in 1976.
2_ if you are saying that they were not in their prime, then i can say that lyle was not in his prime either, because the had the same age.

tommy you must be joking...
the best thing and the only great thing that spoon did in his complete career was to fight a great fight against 34 years old larry holmes.and spoon was 25.

he did beat garbages like reinaldo snipes by MD, he did beat greg page by MD, he did beat smith by decision and HE WAS DESTROYED IN THE REMATCH BY KO IN 1 ROUND. he did beat the bum frank bruno. he did beat bums like carl "the lie" williams by a sad sd, and the only decent victory was tonny tubbs in 1986.ray mercer was not a great thing because even the oldest larry holmes did beat him.

his record was 55(38ko)-13.


ron lyle 43(31ko)-7
did his pro debut in his 30s, lyle did beat oscar bonavena by ud(who did put down and gave the hell of fight to frazier), ron lyle did beat jimmy ellis by ud ,goyo peralta, he did beat a prime joe bugner when lyle was 36, he destroyed a younger earnie shavers , he knocked out 29 years old buster mathis out in 2 rounds,(joe frazier did beat mathis in 11).
lyle fought a war against foreman(8 years younger than him), he did put foreman down more of once, lyle fought a very good fight during 11 rounds against muhammad ali(younger than him), lyle lost against a prime jimmy young (7 years younger than lyle)(who did beat foreman and who was stolen against ali,norton and shavers). and lyle lost against quarry(younger than lyle) (a hell of fighter).we never saw a prime lyle in his 20s and still...
where is the much better resume of spoon?