How was Frazier able to fight most of his career partially blind in one eye?

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  1. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Were fighters not subjected to medicals and examinations before being awarded a professional license? Just seems strange that this was never picked up. Surely that was a pretty dangerous thing to do though? to fight with not having full vision? dunno if the guy was brave or stupid.

    One hell of a fighter though.
     
  2. BoxKing

    BoxKing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why would Frazier purposely end his career by announcing something like this if he himself believed he could fight with one eye?
     
  3. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's beside the point. Surely the aim of the trainer and those associated with him is to protect his fighter is it not? How is sending the man in to the lions den where in every fight regardless of how well he has trained, will be in there with a handicap.

    Surely safety of the fighter is paramount before all else?
     
  4. zoo

    zoo Active Member Full Member

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    I heard the trick he played to get his license went like this:

    Doctor: Place your hand over your left eye
    Frazier: Placed his left hand over his left eye
    Doctor: Now place your hand over your right eye
    Frazier: Would drop his left hand from his left eye, and raise his right over his left eye again.

    Apparently this worked like a charmed.
     
  5. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    was wondering about it myself! Would be interesting to know!
     
  6. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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  7. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed, but you must remember that it was a different era and Frazier could, by all measures, fight effectively with the eye situation as most of his early fights were ending by brutal KO. There was also far too much money to be lost if Frazier's eye problem became public as he was clearly destined for greatness and on a crash course with Ali.
     
  8. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    In his own words: ''They didnt last that long.''
     
  9. Tuavale

    Tuavale Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "How was Frazier able to fight most of his career partially blind in one eye?"

    Great chin, unyielding fortitude, tremendous conditioning and a left hook that could separate anyone from their senses. That's why. Only lost to 2 men, Foreman and Ali.
     
  10. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    On reference, to was Frazier's rare bravery being considered stupid, it depends on how you look at a boxing warriors bravery. This was the man's way to put food on the table. And he has the soul of a fighter, so I say it was bravery, not stupidity, that fueled him to be a monster in the ring.

    On how he was actually able to get medically cleared, someone already posted this, but the different hand over the same eye trick seems to have worked for him.
     
  11. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's all well and good looking back in hindsight and say well they didn't last very long, and he was destined to fight Ali etc etc, but at the time, no one knew what was to happen. It's just we know now how events turned out for him, but what was a gamble and it paid off, I mean you can't argue with the guy achived and his legend will live on.

    But Surely Eddie Futch risked his own integrity in the sport to turn a blind eye (Pardon the pun, I know you didn't see that coming lol) Sure looking back now it paid off, but amazing how no one became aware of Frazier's condition.

    Had things not turned out the way they did and Frazier had got seriously hurt I think this would have become a more telling factor and especially at the time, more done to prevent fighters competing with lack of full vision.
     
  12. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Futch made the biggest decision of his life in my opinion when he pulled Frazier out at the end of the 14th round. He was the only person at that time who knew of Joe's handicap and made the call to stop the fight.

    That fight was hanging on the last round or it could have been a draw, Futch didn't think Joe was losing, to stop it when he did was a brave decision.
     
  13. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier and his peers were hardened men who fought their way out of dire poverty. No one would even think of taking that livelihood away. It was a different era.
     
  14. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    didnt frazier hate him for doing that, That was one close war and i could understand why he wanted to continue ALi could barely breath.
    Is it by the way 100% true that he fought with one eye almost blind? I always tought they made it up as a myth to make his performances seem more impressive.
     
  15. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you have great head movement like Frazier and the best left hook in the history of the heavyweight division , you only need one good eye.

    Would demolish all the champions of today.