Roy Jones interview

wrong, lamotta was more compact,stronger, and heavier at mw.more weight in less height(and lamotta neevr trained weights like a mad man, he did not have modern advantages in nutrition or training). he was a durable tank, jones could not take a shot from a child. compared with lamotta.

 

you did not understand that i said
i am talking about jones at mw. obviously the hw jones was bigger than mw lamotta. but lamotta weighed 190 pounds at amateur......
i am talking about middle jones and middle lamotta. like i said , lamotta had a structure bigger than jones, lamotta was lhw at amateur, so he would have fought at lhw in his pro career if he would have wanted it. but he had better stamina at middle.(jones was better at middle and super middle than he was like lhw).
1_lamoota weighed 175 pounds in 1951, he weighed,he weighed 173 in 1952,he weighed 172,170,171 in 1941,he was a mw and he fought on 165 pounds tons of times.YOU ARE WRONG.
2_TALLER IS NOT BIGGER, ALI WAS TALLER THAN TYSON BUT TYSON WAS BIGGER.AT MW LAMOTTA WAS BIGGER AND STRONGER THAN JONES.
3_ check the weights of mw jones and mw lamotta (principally his early career when he was coming from his amateur career). the middleweight lamotta was heavier than the mw jones in less height

4_the heaviest roy jones at MW!!! WEIGHED 163 POUNDS IN 5,11 WELL, LAMOTTA WEIGHED MORE THAN 165POUNDS TONS OF TIMES IN 5´8,SIMPLE. YOU ARE VERY WRONG.

 

What's heavier, 10 pounds of lead or 10 pounds of feathers?

 

the heaviest roy jones at MW!!! WEIGHED 163 POUNDS IN 5,11 WELL, LAMOTTA WEIGHED MORE THAN 165POUNDS TONS OF TIMES IN 5´8,SIMPLE. YOU ARE VERY WRONG

 

THEN I CAN APPLY THE SAME THING TO LAMOTTA, RIGHT?

IF LAMOTTA WAS HEAVIER THAN JONES AT MW IN TONS OF FIGHTS ACCORDING BOXREC. AND THEY WERE REALLY HEAVIER, LAMOTTA WOULD BE STILL HEAVIER...OR MAYBE YOU WILL TELL ME THAT JUST JONES WAS HEAVIER...?

 

RJJ vs Toney, both weighed in at the 168 lbs limit about 27 hours before they entered the ring. Before the fight began Jones gained 10 pounds and Toney 14 pounds.

 

a lot of guys try to crap on jones in the classic forum but this is one of the worst arguments i've ever seen. he doesn't seem to understand that lamotta had day of weigh-ins and jones day before weigh-ins. all this crap about jones' chin gets old as well. he's been ko'd three times when he was past 35 and after he came back down from heavyweight. ezzard charles was ko'd 7 times. i don't see any threads on here questioning his chin.

 

Jones talks a lot in the interview about the weight he shed after Ruiz and how that affected him. What are your thoughts, how did this affect his career?

 

it ruined him as a fighter. he was already getting old and then he was having to destroy his body to make weight. mackie shillstone stated that jones was at 200 lbs with 6% body fat after the ruiz fight. he had to lose muscle to make weight. it's amazing he got away with the win in the first tarver fight with having to make 175.

 

Yeah, a definite gamble. That seems to have been the end of his prime.

 

I think he's rather saying that Robinson was accustomed to fighting big, strong middleweights. LaMotta was atleast Jorge Castro's size if not bigger, and Castro was evidently stronger than the middleweight version of Roy Jones. It's not the physical aspect that would trouble Robinson against Jones, he's met 160+ pound, 5'10 men before, but the sheer talent and athleticism of him.

Guys like Fullmer and LaMotta did come in at around 168 pounds to their middleweight fights. Keep in mind that Robinson was able to handle LaMotta even when he was a welterweight (though not without trouble), so he was used to fighting stronger guys.

Also bringing the Maxim fight is not the best evidence for Jones beating Robinson because Jones would probably never beat Robinson the way Maxim did, by outlasting him in the heat. An ideal fantasy match-up would never even take place under such conditions. Other than the ending, Robinson showed he could easily outspeed and outbox the bigger man who was noted for his boxing ability.
He even outjabbed Maxim.