Is Arum's decision on Mosley, actually hurting Pac.?

But will the ref? I see Pacquiao landing way too many unanswered punches, a TKO seems almost certain for this one

 

Its going to be in Vegas, so its up to Arum and Mosley to make sure they get a good one, which is unlikely. If it was an east coast fight Smoger would be the call.

 

I think it's gonna be Bayless. If Arum forces Cortez on him that'd be ****ing awful.

 

Not even close.

The de la Hoya fight was contested @ 154 lbs and Oscar was coming off of a dominant 6 round KO over Mayorga.

Pacquiao, OTOH, couldn't find the cojones to meet Cotto @ the WW limit and Cotto had just been DESTROYED by Margarito.

Stop talking out of your ass....

 

...You working really hard to ignore plain facts. Mayweather defeated Mosley after Mosley defeated Margarito. Manny is late to the date. He should have faced him before Mayweather, but Freddy turned him down. You should know this already.

And if you go through life with your eyes clamped shut you'll miss what's in front of you. Berto, Bradley, and Alexander are talented, undefeated fighters in or approaching their primes. Manny is choosing to fight a middle-aged retread instead.

Emoticons don't strengthen your argument.

And Stats don't overcome facts. Here they are, yet again: Mayweather TKO 10 Hatton. Margarito TKO 11 Cotto. Cotto SD Clottey. Mosley TKO9 Margarito. Only after these happened, did Manny sign.

Again, Floyd defeated Hatton who was undefeated. He defeated Shane, who was coming off of two KOs of Mayorga and Margarito. What are you talking about?

You're cherry-picking your facts as much as Freddie is cherry-picking opponents.

Instead of apologizing for Freddie Roach and Scrooge Arum, you ought to demand more of your hero.

Let's bring this to a head. Answer this: Let's say Bradley KOs Alexander next month. Would you be more impressed if Pacquiao beats Shane than if he fought and whipped Bradley?

 

"And Stats don't overcome facts. Here they are, yet again: Mayweather TKO 10 Hatton. Margarito TKO 11 Cotto. Cotto SD Clottey. Mosley TKO9 Margarito. Only after these happened, did Manny sign. "

yes they do.

If we are going to ignore the wins inbetween:

Pacman SD Marquez, Cotto SD Mosley, DeLaHoya 2 year retired KOed by Bernard Hopkins, Baldomir UD Judah....Only after these fights did Money May sign. nut


"You're cherry-picking your facts as much as Freddie is cherry-picking opponents. "

Actually I laid out all the facts. You are the one cherry-picking by ignoring what doesn't support your argument. Hence, you keep bringing up Mosley's win over Margo but refuse to mention his loss to Cotto. I laid out what both men did, win or lose.

"Instead of apologizing for Freddie Roach and Scrooge Arum, you ought to demand more of your hero. "

Who's apologizing,I'm just giving my opinion, bud.

"Let's bring this to a head. Answer this: Let's say Bradley KOs Alexander next month. Would you be more impressed if Pacquiao beats Shane than if he fought and whipped Bradley?"

The same Bradley who only has one fight at WW? The same Devon Alexander that just got an ugly hometown decision against the limited Kotelnik? Who could easily vanish if such a loss occured? For now, I might lean towards the proven Hall of Famer hanging on to a top 5 ranking.

 

Well, you have the right to your opinion.

I wouldn't pay $10 bucks to get suckered by Bob Arum.

 

Pacman is certainly a heavy favorite. But if he's looking to stick around and make a statment at Welter, this is the best available fight, and it should be exciting at least. Mosley is a tough brawler, he'll give a game effort in the early rounds before being completely overmatched.

Now if Pacman announces he'll be facing the loser of Bradley/Alexander..I'll come around to your point of view.

 

Haha!

Hey, if one of them was over the hill and a recognized name, I wouldn't be surprised if he did. The pattern is clear!

 

It doesn't hurt it nor enhance it. Achievements don't get erased only because you take the odd easy payday every once in a while. Mosley I imagine needs the money, and Pacquiao will send him to a well-deserved retirement. If Mosley had the conditioning of old, this would have actually been a good fight, but those days are long past. It's a bit upsetting that Mosley gets this fight after the sorry efforts against Mayweather and Mora, but this is hardly a unique situation in boxing. Sometimes it's easier to get the big fights that you want by looking vulnerable rather than invincible.

 

On the other hand, Marquez looked decent against Diaz & particularly impressive against Katsides. Thought he may have even earned a third fight with Pac. Or does Arum still consider Marquez too dangerous?

 

We don't know what went on in the discussions for the fight. It could be that Marquez demands the fight to be fought at 140, while Pacquiao wants it at 147.

Marquez should eventually get his shot if he keeps up the form, but personally I believe a third fight with Pacquiao could be hazardous for old Marquez. I know he has had Pacquiao's number in the past, but Marquez's age and Pacquiao's added size will make it a very tough task for him.

 

Yeah, that right hand from Katsides. is a cause for concern. but still he at least is more deserving than Mosley. The combo's in the end against Katsides were brilliant. Marquez should at least get the oportunity, win, lose, or draw.

 

Mosley would probably beat both Bradley and Alexander. Yes they're that bad.

 

Defintely. PAC is now a welter. Marquez is not