How was Frazier able to fight most of his career partially blind in one eye?

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  1. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    According to Frazier and Hauser as well, he had fought with one eye since the mid-60s, by the time he fought in Manilla he had been fighting for 10 years like that.

    The problem was Joe's good eye was closing because of the shots he was taking, and Joe always had problems with bruising and swelling. Rounds 13 & 14, when Joe wasn't showing no movement like he did earlier in the fight, the shots he was taking were sick!! Nothing but heart kept him upright that night.

    Frazier was willing to go out for that 15th round that is a fact, the video proves it, never mind the bravado he said afterwards, Futch made a huge call.

    Imagine that fight ending in a draw!! **** me what a way to finish the worlds greatest boxing trilogy!!
     
  2. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Harry Greb fought a good portion of his career with one eye, and his other one was going too. He went for surgery to repair the good eye and died on the table.
    Pretty much the same thing happened to Tiger Flowers who beat Greb for the middleweight title.
    Sam Langford was almost totally blind towards the end of his career. "I punch at the stink" he said.
    A contender from Philadelpha, Gypsy Joe Harris fought blind in one eye most of his career too. He memorized the commision doctors eye charts.
     
  3. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    An accident in training in 1965 injured his eye and he was left with partial sight. As for the Thrilla In Manilla, Frazier disagreed with him but hate is a bit of a strong word. Even as a massive Frazier fan he was absolutely right. Ali would not have quit on his stool, and Frazier was behind on the cards and almost completely blind and taking more and more punishment. Absolutely the right call by Futch and a brave one.
     
  4. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats not true, he went for nose surgery
     
  5. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Wow I did not know of this. I have even more respect for this HW great. If this is the case, would he be the greatest handicapped fighter ever?
     
  6. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    According to people who knew him it wasn't as bad as people are making out. It did get worse not only as he went along in his career, but also as he got bruised up in fights. However lets not make out this man was fighting his whole career with one eye.

    People should becareful getting things from documentaries with certain agendas.
     
  7. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Well he certainly didn't fight with whole career with two.
     
  8. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the only good eye frazer has that you are interested in is the eye at the end of his dick, your an expert at bobbing your mouth up and down on it you worthless ******!
     
  9. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Put it this way any vision impairment is a big in thing boxing terms where split second decisions are to be made, and you need all your senses to work in sync in order to avoid punches.

    So it's not a case of people making a big thing out of this, it IS a big thing and something remarkable. Remember every time you are stepping in to that ring, there is a good chance you could come out of it seriously injured, or dead. In those days, the fights were longer and as a result more punishing. I think the man even having a slight impairment with his vision was a dangerous thing when you went up against one of the fastest heavyweights ever on 3 occasions raining punches down on you.

    Joe Frazier is the epitomy of bravery and deserves massive credit for seeing out his career with such a handicap. Sad to see the guy never really got the recognition he deserved.
     
  10. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    No doubt about it, wasn't making light of it just putting things in perspective.
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  12. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What is even more amazing, is that he was more than a match for Ali in all 3 fights, now I like Ali, but to think Frazier, when you take in to account the vision thing, make life hell for Ali in the ring, who is considered the greatest but I think Joe Frazier is pretty a great fighter himself.
     
  13. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Because its Joe friggn Frazier!!!