Is Arum's decision on Mosley, actually hurting Pac.?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by la-califa, Dec 26, 2010.


  1. The Mongoose

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    Alexander made Kotelnik look like Bernard Hopkins...I don't think I've seen more missed jabs in my life. This dude just isn't ready yet.

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  2. horst

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    So Floyd taking 10 rounds to dispatch a welterweight Ricky Hatton who Luis Collazo had already proved did not belong at 147 is a better win than Pacquiao taking 2 rounds to devastate a Ricky Hatton at his natural, best fighting weight and coming off one of the best all-round performances of his career?

    Seriously?! :patsch

    A fighter does not lose all/any of his ability once he has suffered a loss you know. Being at your optimum weight is far more important than whether you have had a recent loss or not. Tangible physical advantage > intangible possible speculated mental disadvantage.
     
  3. horst

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  4. horst

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    For what it's worth, I think Pac-Mosley is a **** fight at this point in time and I am extremely disappointed in Arum, Roach and Pacman himself for signing it.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    I think Alexander is getting underrated off this 1 fight, where he did look poor, but against Witter/Urango he was very dominant. This also isn't the robbery its made out to be, as he always does Kotelnik gave the first 4 or so away and there were plenty of close rounds there in after, overall Alexander outlanded him significantly in power shots, but Kotelniks best power shots were cleaner and he certainly won the battle of the jabs/defense

    Bradley should outbox Alexander, but if he elects to brawl it will play into Alexanders hands. At this stage Bradley should beat Mosley
     
  6. horst

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    :nono Don't watch Compubox, watch the fight itself.
     
  7. Stonehands89

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    And yet you don't see a pattern...?
     
  8. lefthook31

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    Yeah its a pattern of ****, but I still think this will be the best of the ****.
     
  9. Stonehands89

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    If Shane become that old proverbial lion fighting for his legacy and reclaims what he was years ago, then Manny could very well lose. And that's the other point of the stupidity of this choice of opponent: Manny could lose.
    Then Floyd never needs to fight him -why should he? Manny spent the last few years underneath his table feasting on scraps. And if he loses to a man Floyd dominated for 11/12s of the fight, then Floyd re-takes the p4p throne without even throwing another shot.
     
  10. lefthook31

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    This is true, but when you take a fighter like Pac to the pinnacle of HBO PPV boxing, you have to take into consideration the marketability of the fight. I was at Berto's fight in Florida, the arena was empty. There arent too many options for Pac while still being able to make a marketable fight. I would love to see Pac in the Blue Horizon against Berto or some other young tough fighter, but when he commands 20 million a fight, that aint happening.
    The Mayweather point is a good one and probably what Floyd is thinking. I dont think he thinks highly of Pac so he probably is waiting for him to lose, but unfortunately Floyd will have to blow through a few more millions before we see him resurface on the boxing scene, and that could take a while but it will happen.
     
  11. Stonehands89

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    Manny could fight Tom Thumb and it would be marketable.

    Floyd? Guess what -he didn't blow through millions, he fell for the oldest flim-flam around and lost millions.
     
  12. horst

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    Nah. Oscar was a good fight, as was Hatton, as was Cotto. Clottey was the best quick-fix option available at the time after Floyd had ensured the negotiations failed, and the Margarito fight was to acquire a lmw belt and had the intrigue of the 17lbs size difference by fightnight. This is the first time I have genuinely disappointed and disillusioned by a Pacquiao opponent. Considering the era we are in, his resume is excellent IMO. He is basically cleaning house in the 147 range while Mr Mayweather is on vacation looking for his urge. As long as Pac fights a prime opponent in his next match (Berto or the Bradley-Alexander winner) or a live dog like Juan Manuel Marquez, then all will be forgiven from me.
     
  13. Stonehands89

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    I had no beef with Oscar even though I stood all by my lonesome with the prediction that Pac would stop him. Hatton was a good follow-up and turned out to be a thumbed nose at Floyd. Clottey? Recall that Shane asked for Pac and Freddie said "no thanks, too dangerous" and then went with Clottey. Suspicions mounted.


    Eh. Margarito was dented, vulnerable, and has the perfect style to lose to Pac. The laurels Pac got have the same hue as some of Ray Leonard's.


    Damn right.
     
  14. lefthook31

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    Marquez is not a better opponent than Mosley at 147
     
  15. teeto

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    :good