Is JMM the greatest ever mexican boxer?

:conf Marco Antonio Barrera by 1 point in the rematch.

 

Marquez, sadly.. I was to young and wasnt into boxing to watch the Prime Barrera and Morales.

 

Youtube has a lot of fights from both fighters, and to attain them on DVD is an easy, straight forward task.

 

No way. Salvador Sanchez and Julio Cesar Chavez are usually mentioned as the best, while Morales, Barrera, and Lopez might round up the top 5. Marquez for sure is in the top 10.

 

Hell no. Julio Cesar Chavez is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time. I believe he was 89-0 before he lost. Cesar Chavez was a bad boy in the ring. JJM is a good fighter but imo he is behind Barrera and possibly Morales.

 

Olivares-Rose for me in terms of absolute performance. He was superb in that fight, the only struggles he displayed were with Rose's inside counter-punching at times when he left himself open but he was never hurt and got back to launching powerful combinations.

He did everything right. Controlled the early round circling with his jab, giving himself time to study Rose a little and made sure he won any inside exchanges in round one aswell, then stepped it up from there.

Trading inside throughout, exactly where he wanted to be with his speed, power, work-rate and punch precision. Never stopped throwing big combinations and his punch accuracy for the most part was excellent, constantly throw left-hooks to the body in amongst his combinations aswell to keep Rose hurt/tired so he could do it all over again.

Sanchez-Gomez was a great performance, but Gomez did have his moments and Sanchez did have to cop some punishment in that fight, Olivares-Rose for me was completely one-sided on the cards aswell whereas I thought Gomez did have some success after the opening couple of rounds and in round 7.

But Sanchez did a great job of setting the pace when he dropped Gomez early and had him out on his feet for the entire 1st round. Forced Gomez into trading with a bigger, stronger, more durable guy who had a terrific punch-output whenever things get up-close, and mixed in decent reflexes with a bit of counter-punching too. He did the latter well whenever on the ropes which I think deterred Gomez a bit because he was probably struggling to see exactly how he could approach Sanchez and where he could find success. Great performance again, but Olivares' versus Rose is slightly ahead for me.

Been a while since I've seen Chavez-Rosario. I'll have to go and watch that one again.

 

JCC, Morales, Sal Sanchez, ETC.

 

Im gonna have to say...Chavez vs Rosario...

Chavez' in fighting, combination punching to head and body, and head movemnet on the inside were just spectacular on that night...He looked unbeatable. Sanchez vs Gomez is not too far behind tho, but the fact that the Gomez beatdown happened at 126, where Sal was more confortable opposed to Chavez doing his thing at Rosarios comfortable weight makes Chavez performance look all that much better for me.

So yeah, Chavez vs Rosario it is.

Olivares vs Rose was a great perfromance as well, but i would say the other 2 are a bit above it. Just by a hair. But i will have to watch that again since its been a while since i havent.

 

Good list.

 

that's one of the worst scorecards i've heard. the second fight was the most lopsided imo. erik won that fight by 3-4 rounds.

i scored the first fight a draw. watch it with the volume down, or else you might be influenced by lampley and merchant nuthugging mab.

mab clearly won the 3rd fight by 1-2 rounds.

i have no problem ranking them side by side.

 

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

No way, me too, besides the snowed out house (god bless California).

Who are these 8 people who voted yes?

 

I think Marquez bought his son a computer for Christmas this year.

 

Julio Cesar Chavez is not only the best Mexican boxer ever, but he's the best Hispanic fighter ever.

 

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