THE BIG VOTE. Who was the greatest of these stand-outs of our era?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Dec 29, 2010.


  1. horst

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    I agree with this. If you factor in the decisions that Winky deserved vs prime undefeated Vargas and prime undefeated Taylor at mw, you have a very strong resume to go along with his high level ability at lmw.

    To be honest, I don't even see the argument for having Tszyu or Calzaghe on the same level as Winky. I rank Winky on par with Mosley and Tito.
     
  2. horst

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    I wouldn't argue with anyone who did. I have Oscar higher, but I see the counter-argument for sure.
     
  3. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    For what it's worth, I think De La Hoya is clearly above all of the fighters in the poll. He's comfortably in the top 5 for me too.
     
  4. horst

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    :good
     
  5. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    **** me that very list of names gives me a massive hard on , these are the names that i was brought up on , phenominal talented warriors everywhere you look on that list .

    Winky - in 2003 - 05 IMHO was the best P4P on the planet , beast of a JrMW and so technical he put the T in technical

    Barrera , Morales & Marquez .................. Enough Said :lol:

    Mosley - 3 weight world champion , 2 great fights with DLH , pushed the best fighter around back then all the way (Winky) 2nd time out , bombed the seemingly in destructable Margarito out in 9 :good

    Tito , Castillo , Calzaghe ****in great list , great thread , well done mate :good

    Oh BTW Barrera got my vote
     
  6. horst

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    Barrera is a very good choice, but as I'm sure you'll agree, there's no real right answers here (though IMO there are some wrong/unjustifiable ones).
     
  7. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I think Winky gets too little credit , the guy has 1 vote and at his best was hands down better than all the mentioned names P4P

    The problem Winky has , is when he was that good , he was worlds apart from early Winky and late Winky , its a shame this man does not stand with the giants of history , because i tell you what he deserves too :deal
     
  8. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Its a list i would never get bored of looking at , and it actually pains me right now that these boys are never gonna fight again , its the realistaion of how good these guys where and they aint coming back :|

    Your right , any of the above have an argument , you could debate this list and the question you posed for ever and not get bored

    Top thread mate , well done :good
     
  9. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Yeah I scored the second Mosley fight for Oscar by quite a margin too, however I go by the judges scoring of the fight to try and give my list a bit more consistency. For instance I had Oscar beating Quartey, Whitaker, Trinidad and Mosley 2 (Had him losing very clearly to Sturm though.) Think where I would rank him based on clear wins in those fights :hey
     
  10. horst

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    I had Quartey beating Oscar by a point (Oscar was bad that night, kind of hurts his standing for me), Whitaker beating Oscar by a point (no shame there, even past-prime pre-shot Pea was a wizard), Oscar beating Tito by 4 points, and Oscar winning the Mosley rematch by 5 points.
     
  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Combining ability and resume:

    1. Pacquiao
    2. Mayweather
    3. De La Hoya
    4. Barrera
    5. Morales
    6. Hopkins
    7. Marquez
    8. Winky
    9. Calzaghe
    10. Trinidad
     
  12. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Yep. Unfortunately I've really only started to appreciate Barrera in the last year or two rather than when he was still at his best(altough I was between the ages of like 6-10 at the time:lol:). I really hope he does retire though. The fact he has a loss to Amir Khan sickens me. I hope he retires, or else he'll also be compared to Chavez for staying around too long and, god forbid, losing to a club fighter.


    Ludacris statement.
     
  13. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    I had the Tito and Mosley fights Oscar wins by about those amounts. I had him beating Whitaker by two points, would have been one without the Whitaker deduction in round 2 (Whitaker was silly in that fight, I can't believe a guy that old put in that sort of performance against a young undefeated fighter who was clearly something special, a swansong if ever there was one.) Then I had the Quartey fight even going into the last. The Quartey fight was a strange one, when I watched it I sometimes think the same Oscar that showed up in the Gonzalez fight was going to show up and do nothing in the last round, then he comes out and pulls that rally out of nowhere. The thing that really kills his career for me is the inconsistency in his last years and his lack of activity. He only really seemed to show up to fight if you called him names in his later years.
     
  14. horst

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    :lol: How did I know the worst post in the thread was going to come from this notorious idiot?
     
  15. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had this been a 15 round era, and had Don King not been such an over-protective *******, I think the answer to this thread would have been Tito.

    Agree with the calls on Winky being underrated.

    To me, he beat Harry Simon and Jermain Taylor, and drew with Hopkins and Vargas. Between the Vasquez loss and the loss to Williams I don't think he lost a fight.