Jeffries v Byrd

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Totally depends on the rules. Make the fight a 25 rounder and under Jeff´s rules with extensive wrestling and Byrd stands no chance at all. A slugger like Ibeabuchi got to Byrd and knocked him out, Byrd is not a runner, he uses lateral movement, not footwork to make you miss. This wouldn´t necessarily work here. So even under Byrd rules Jeff stands a good chance, even so I wouldn´t make him the fav.
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It would enable Jeff to go a much higher pace than usual.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

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    If Jeffries did 10-12 miles it would be at such a slow pace it wouldn't be very beneficial, 3miles is actually optimal distance to maximise VO2 levels, any further is actually less beneficial. And hes bullshitting anyway as 10-12miles a day would **** up any 220lb mans joints in no time

    Byrd outboxes Jeffries to a decision win, if the smaller ancient Corbett/Fitz manage it then Byrd would do it more emphatically
     
  4. Ylem

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    training for fitz its said he would do 14 miles in 2 hours with a mix of jogging and sprinting, no walking.

    also he would oftenly have 100 yard foot races as he traveled the country which he was able to run in high 10's.

    so if a smaller lighter faster person can out box jeffries.....untill he cought them........why would you assume a slower same size person is going to out box jeffries even better?
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    :huh Lateral movement is footwork, not sure why you don't think Byrd's defense would work
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    What makes you think Corbett is faster than Byrd? The film doesn't back it up

    His training log is bollox because you can't sprint and jog and still run slow enough to do 8:30miles with no walking. A fit man of his size would struggle to that time anyway at even pace and doing it daily would completely ruin his joints
     
  7. the difference is that byrd was an average fighter. jefries one of the greatest ,EVEN A 34 YEARS OLD CORBETT WAS BY FAR BETTER THAN BYRD, if JEFRIES COULD catch HIM HE WOULD CATCH BYRD MUCH MORE EARLY , 4 ROUNDS, 12 ROUNDS,15 OR 35 JEFRIES WINS BY KO. AND YOUR ARGUMENT " IT IS BOXING NOT WRESTLING" HAS NO SENSE,. THE STRENGTH AND THE POWER ARE FACTORS IN THE BOXING AND IT WILL BE FOREVER.
     
  8. janitor

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  9. janitor

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    There are lots of 220lb men who maintain that sort of mileage.

    It should also be noted that he probably ran iot off road, which puts far less stress on the body. I ran a 16 mile road race and a 35 mile trail race a month or so apart and I can honestly say that I was more beaten up after the 16 mile road race.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

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    Not daily there aren't, and many marathon runners don't do 10-12miles daily. What was your bodyweight for those runs, running at 200lbs+ is completely different, 1lb of bodyweight slows your mile time by 5seconds on average and massive amounts of force on the joints. Each pound of bodyweight generates 3times more force when running than walking
     
  11. bodhi

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    Yeah, what I expressed poorly was that Byrd doesn´t dance around like Ali. He is more in range. That would hurt him.
     
  12. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So, you would agree that no one trains as hard nowadays?
     
  13. janitor

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    I walk the streets at 150lbs so no issue there. There are however pleanty of men in the heavyweight class who compete in ultra distance events. I usualy put in a 40 mile week in training for a 30 mile+ race, but I have to work for a living. I know people who regularly put in a 60 mile week.

    I don't think that Jeffries ran 10-14 miles every day in training per se. He probably focused on roadwork on some days, and other aspects on different days. In the run up to the Munroe fight, there were reporters in both fighters training camps throughout. It is therfore possible to peice together a fairly detailed picture of both fighters training regimes.
     
  14. Unforgiven

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    I'm 215 pounds and I've done 8-14 mile runs daily for periods of 3-4 months before, and my joints are fine, at 37 years of age.
    It's called conditioning.

    And you're wrong to say 3 miles is better than 10. Jeffries was doing those runs to build long endurance and to burn off a lot of weight.
    A 25 round fight would last 99 minutes, and a 10-12 mile run would take a similar amount of time.
     
  15. janitor

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    If you train for a 50 mile race, they recoment that part of your training involves standing for seven hours at a time.