Can someone explain to me why Timothy Bradley is in the p4p top 10??!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Dec 30, 2010.


  1. Jay23

    Jay23 Guest

    yep:good
     
  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I never said khan was top 10, just that his resume was the best of the guys at 140.
    Heres my top 10:

    1.pac
    2.floyd
    3.martinez
    4.marquez
    5. wlad
    6. montiel
    7. donaire
    8.juanma lopez
    9: bute
    10:wonjongkam
     
  3. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo and Lemieux are where my chips are stacked for the next 5 years. :smoke Hopefully they can keep their "0"'s so I won't be forced to disregard them as hype jobs :nut

    Bradley probably gets a little too much credit in P4P lists but I don't see why it's such a big deal. He wants big fights and is chasing big fights and is just starting to get paid; he's not Berto FFS. Let's see how the kid does this year against Alexander and Khan.
     
  4. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    I'll try and see if i could go, i would LOVE to, but theres no gurantee on it. And yes I love Montiel to death..Every one is looking at Canelo at the moment, but i truely believe that Montiel can become Mexico's next great champion. A victory over Donaire, one over the bantamweight tourney winner, and picking up a 4th title will ensure that, and he has a good chance at doing that IMO, it'll be tough but not impossible.
     
  5. horst

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    I expect him to beat Devon Alexander pretty conclusively. If he does, I wouldn't argue with anyone having him top 10 p4p, but as for now I can't see how he has done enough. JMO.
     
  6. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    i don't keep scorecards, i scored it whilst watching it, trying not to get swayed by the noise of the fanatical home crowd. anyway, i would prefer you to address the questions / points i brought up in my last post which was :






    with regards to dawson, who would you have said adameks best wins were in the light heavyweight division?

    does beating glen johnson make you a p4p fighter? if so there are 11 fighters who have a claim for that. beating pascal would surely prove nothing anyway, pascal is a b-level plodder who has had his ass kicked by froch and a 45 year old hopkins. there was maybe a case for having dawson scrape into a top 10 p4p ranking but to have as your number 3 ?

    you didn't answer my question of where you ranked kessler in your p4p rankings before ward beat him?

    think we can agree that ward has had the cards stacked in his favour in the super 6 - 3 hometown fights, a good win v kessler, but come on alan green is shite, and if you've got an ounce of fairness in you, the performance against bika was scrappy at best. now if ward had of beat the original line up that he should of faced in the super6 - kessler, (taylor?), and dirrell, then maybe there could be a case for you including ward as number 6. (btw, when you made those rankings, ward had not even fought bika yet anyway, so you were basing it purely on his fights with kessler and green).
     
  7. horst

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    The version of Witter that fought Bradley?
     
  8. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Even if Khan beats Bradley and unifies the division, I bet he won't be as high as Bradley was this year come 2012.
     
  9. horst

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    Because you don't score fights. You keep your fingers crossed for the white British fighter to win, and then you come on here well-stocked with emoticons in order to further push your agenda, irrespective of how the fight went. You're a troll, plain and simple. I cannot find the motivation to dignify you with serious debate. You've never made one single thread of any value in all of your time here and you admitted as much yesterday, and that says to me you are a troll, so I can't be arsed. You are too twisted by bias and prejudice to be worth speaking to on any meaningful level.
     
  10. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    So now we add fighters to a boxers resume solely based on the fact that they have the tools to beat them?

    Since when?
     
  11. horst

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    FYI Arsebanger:

    - Track down the Adamek-Briggs fights, then tell me Adamek was nothing at lhw.

    - Who has ever outboxed Glen Johnson as widely and convincingly as Dawson did?

    - Mikkel Kessler has never ever been in my p4p top 10, but the way Ward utterly dominated him was highly, highly impressive
     
  12. horst

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    :huh Khan did beat Maidana and Kotelnik. And both are better fighters than Vazquez, who is a lightweight.
     
  13. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Montiel is on a roll currently, and has been destroying his opponents the way he should be. His victory over Hasegawa is better than anything dudes like Bradley and Lopez have done so far. Take Lopez for example, he's in the top 10, and his best win was against a shot 35 year old Marquez, who is a career Bantam, and had an injured shoulder, yet Lopez managed to not look so good in beating him. He also struggled with someone like Mtgawa, and went life and death with him. Do you honestly think he deserves to be in the top 10 than someone like Montiel???
     
  14. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    wtf, the froch point is totally irrelevant, i can accept why people think kessler won, it was just my opinion, its no big deal, i was just answering a question you asked because i never duck questions and run from discussion.


    hopefully you will man up and address the civilized points i have made in this thread instead of ducking them for a 3rd time and trying to change the subject. as a reminder, i wrote :





    with regards to dawson, who would you have said adameks best wins were in the light heavyweight division?

    does beating glen johnson make you a p4p fighter? if so there are 14 fighters who have a claim for that. beating pascal would surely prove nothing anyway, pascal is a b-level plodder who has had his ass kicked by froch and a 45 year old hopkins. there was maybe a case for having dawson scrape into a top 10 p4p ranking but to have as your number 3 ?

    you didn't answer my question of where you ranked kessler in your p4p rankings before ward beat him?

    think we can agree that ward has had the cards stacked in his favour in the super 6 - 3 hometown fights, a good win v kessler, but come on alan green is shite, and if you've got an ounce of fairness in you, the performance against bika was scrappy at best. now if ward had of beat the original line up that he should of faced in the super6 - kessler, (taylor?), and dirrell, then maybe there could be a case for you including ward as number 6. (btw, when you made those rankings, ward had not even fought bika yet anyway, so you were basing it purely on his fights with kessler and green).