Jeffries v Byrd

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  1. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sooo you cant run slow enough to do it with out walking and he couldnt have possible run fast enough to do it?

    pure speculation. a man sprinting at 10 mph every mile and finishing off the mile at 6 mph will do the mile at 9:20. so you can do it with out walking.

    and your wrong assuing some one thats 6'2" 220 lbs conditioned for sports since child hood couldnt handle running at an average of 7 mph for 10-14 miles every training day.

    and the fitz corbett fight film shows corbett had faster hand speed and foot work then byrd does.
     
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    Interesting.
    The principle is the same with runs that match the length of the fight. Obviously some fighters might choose to run (or walk) for longer periods.
     
  3. Boucher

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    It shows that Corbett could be kod by one punch to the body by a man weighing 167lbs.
     
  4. Boucher

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    The fight is for 15rds , so this does not apply.
     
  5. Boucher

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    Boucher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Byrd would be the heaviest class man that Jeffries faced.
    Jeffries would be one of the lightest Bryd faced.
    People who presume Jeffries would automatically stop Byrd ,need to look at some of the seriously big, hard hitting giants, that Byrd went the distance with.
    And also, some of the cruiser's , and super middles who went many rounds with Jeffries.
    Jeffries might well have beaten Byrd ,but it is by no means a foregone conclusion,imo.
    PS. I was never a fan of Byrds style, I just thought it was an intruiging matchup, between a great fighter of the old era ,and a good fighter of the modern one.:good

    Jeffries was a good hard puncher ,but I don't think he was a super hitter by any means.
    Why everyone thinks he will do what the Klits ,and Tua could not is rather baffling to me.
     
  7. Swarmer

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    Jeffries should be favored over any heavyweight in a fight to the finish.

    I'm just throwing that out there.
     
  8. bodhi

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    Hm, I wouldn´t put him over Sullivan here. Or Marciano perhaps. What about Max Baer?
     
  9. Swarmer

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    I would. Jeffries has just as much stamina and durability as Sullivan and greater athleticism and skill to go with it. As for Baer, he wastes too much energy with his style, even the most hardy sluggers can't maintain killing power for as many rounds as Jeffries could. I have doubts whether Marciano could maintain his pace and power in an infight against durable bigger dudes like Jeffries himself actually, or Bowe. Hard to remain sharp with a guy 50+lbs bigger than you pushing down on yu.
     
  10. bodhi

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    Well, Baer hadn´t problem to maintain his power for 20 rounds. An indication that he is able to maintain it in long fights IMO. By all accounts, Sullivan was faster and at the very least as tough as Jeffries. Jeffries wouldn´t have 50 pounds on him, 30-35 at best. Yes, that´s i or could be an issue. I don´t know if it is big enough here. Look how good Sharkey did against Jeff and he was no Marciano.
     
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    I haven't honestly seen many accounts of Sullivan's speed/athleticism, at least not as many as there are of Jeffries, to be honest. Maybe in terms of raw strength but not speed.

    As for Sharkey, you might have a point there. I question Marciano's durability over that many rounds. He could be dropped, and by much smaller dudes. I was once berated in a topic here for suggesting that Bob Fitzsimmons could definitely beat Marciano. I still believe that.


    20 rounds is a lot, but I just have doubts about maintaining that for even longer periods. It's just hard with that style.
     
  12. janitor

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    That 167lb man happens to be one of the deadliest finishers in the history of the heavyweight division.
     
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  14. Boucher

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    I don't know that I would disagree with this, but I would not want his face, after he had gone multiple rounds with the likes of Ali, Louis,Liston,Lewis, Foreman.
     
  15. janitor

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    "Hasn't done much for my beuty huh"?

    Jeffries after the second Fitzsimmons fight.