Is Carl Froch the Best British Fighter Since Lennox Lewis?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Dec 29, 2010.


  1. HOF

    HOF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's definitely an argument that Froch is the most courageous of our recent champions. He's been on an almost suicidal stretch of fights that are great for fans but make you worry about the fighter himself. But then Hennessy took so long to get Froch into the spotlight that he has had no alternative but to cram these fights into the 'end' of his career. Ridiculous really. If Hennessy had gotten Froch there sooner it would've been Calzaghe-Froch at the Millennium Stadium instead of Kessler, and even after Calzaghe had had his 2 fights at light heavyweight Froch was still nowhere so it wasnt economicsally viable at any stage. One thing Froch hasn't shown so far is adaptablilty in a fight when required, so this question may be better answered after fighting someobody like Ward who wont stand statically in front of him like Abraham or run like Dirrell.
     
  2. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    No chance has to be JC
     
  3. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe beats Froch head to head everytime.
    Calzaghe beat a prime unbeaten Kessler, a non prime Kessler then beats a prime Froch.

    A lot is made of Calzaghes resume, Hopkins refused to fight him back in the day, Collins refused to fight him, Jones Jnr was advised not to fight him back in the day.

    Calzaghe was always fighting away from home, he fought Delaney, Eubank, Reid, Starie and Woodhall all away in England in important fights, he fought Veit in Germany and Hopkins and Jones Jnr in the USA.
    He fought an American in Denmark on a Tyson undercard not to mention loads of Englishmen in England on the way up as well as fighting fighters from foreign shores in the UK but not in Wales, like Bika, Lacy, Salem and Sheika.
    Calzaghes important fights at home in Wales was Kessler, Mitchell and Brewer, considering Calzaghe was an undefeated champion for years he did not fight at home that often.
     
  4. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So you're saying that Calzaghe wasn't the home fighter in those fights?
     
  5. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe was the home fighter against Bika, Lacy, Salem and Sheika yes but it was not his own backyard, Calzaghe fought a very creditable amount of his fights away from home for a champion.

    Calzaghe had only 18 fights in Wales out of a total of 46 fights.
     
  6. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe won 4 schoolboy ABA titles, he then won 3 consecutive senior ABA titles at different weights becoming the first boxer since the 1920s to achieve such a feet.{only second man ever}
    As a pro , Calzaghe held all the Super-middleweight titles at one time or another, held one version for 11 years and over 20 defences.
    Calzaghe amasted a pro record of 46 fights and 46 wins, Calzaghe was close to unbeatable as an amateur or pro, he did not know how to lose, he would always find a way to win.
    America's new Mike Tyson the unbeaten Jeff Lacy was ruined mentally and physically as a boxer forever by Joe, the great unbeaten champion Mikkel Kessler was beaten by Joe, the great Bernard Hopkins who was and still is on a great run was beaten in his own country by Joe , even legend Roy Jones Jnr was on a run until he was humiliated by Joe.

    There is no comparison between Calzaghe and Froch, Calzaghe was an elite boxer who is in a different league to Froch.
     
  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    there is no if but only when froch wins the super six, the guy is my second best fighter funny as well
     
  8. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe.....

    David Haye is better than him aswell.
     
  9. sugar 007

    sugar 007 New Member Full Member

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    Never been the top guy in his division or close to it really. Unlike Calzaghe(x2), Hatton and Haye.
     
  10. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was actually gonna post Ricky Hatton aswell....

    But i change my mind, in fear of being hounded by "No Marks"

    I'm becoming soft...
     
  11. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    :blurp
     
  12. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have no bottle...

    Like Audley, you have lost all belief...

    A beaten man, who can offer no more....
     
  13. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    :lol:brilliant
     
  14. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :cool:
     
  15. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lacy was the most overhyed fighter in the history of the game ... the kessler fight was an epic and outstanding performance (glad i was there) , BH was a good result but RJJ wasnt the fighter he was... Calzaghe and Froch was never going to happen .. JC wanted pension payment fights in the states and Froch was building a legacy ... JC isnt in a different league to froch at all - give Froch some credit 5 world title fights and 3 outside the UK against very creditable opposition , JC defended his title only twice outside the UK and those were shoe in fights really .... home advantage does make a huge difference !

    JC was techincally gifted fighter who is certainly a top 3 fighter but Frochs mid table and closing ....