How is a 46 yr. old able to trade bombs in the 12th round????

work ethic daddy blood sweat and tears and living a clean life period

 

Archie Moor was fighting at the top level in his mid 40's before steroids were really around. George Foreman won a title at that age aswell.

 

it just shows - charging in using your head as a battering ram is a winning tactic, no matter old you are.

 

are you ****ing ******ed, hopkins is a world class master techinician boxer.he has lived a clean life for over 20 damn yrs and to this day is still a gym rat plus student of the game.pascal wanted to box hopkins and not fight him and pascal could not do anything with hopkins to make him not be able to throw punches in the last rd.that was all hopkins, learn about boxing and understand its not about whos the fastest and harder puncher.this is a thinking mans game son.

now if hopkins moved up to heavy weight and koed sam peter and the klitchko's then i would understand that bull **** you just said.but he did not he outclassed a prime light heavy version of zab judah.

 

Anyway if this topic is about 45 years old trading bomb with Pascal in the twelve. It didn't happen cause Hopkins wanted to be part of the wrestle match in that last round. His better shot was a head butt like I placed in my video.

He seemed fresh like a rose in the eleven round but started to gazed out in the 12th like Tarver pointed out in the match. Finally maybe, he's human!?

15 seconds before the final bell, I have a slow motion of Hopkins, he seems really tired.

 

Hopkins is a Boxing monk. Hopkins is a married man and states he does NOT have sex in training camp after all of these years and scientific data proving the opposite?!? He is a "believer". I believe that it is possible for him to do it. Also, he was gassed out of his mind in that 12th round. You think he was keeping his hands down and circling to showboat? Ha.

Now at the same time of it being possible for Hopkins to be this great it is not impossible that there may be drug use. If Pascal or Dawson asked for OSDT and Hopkins refused? I would think that it is likely that Hopkins is cheating too. Especially since he never objected to a fellow GB fighter requesting it.

I have the exact same doubts about the Klits. All we need is for someone to call for the testing and see their reaction. If you won't test? I wonder if you are clean.

 

I dont know why so many people use the fact that so and so trains hard and eats clean so he must not be using drugs... that is a joke.

In order to achieve your athletic potential you need to train hard, eat well, AND take drugs. You ppl in here need to realize that pro athletes, including boxers, using drugs is the norm rather than the exception...

 

EXACTLY! Hopkins trains hard. We respect that, but he would fall under the EXACT same cloud of suspicion if he ducks a drug test from a viable opponent.

The biggest professional sports "cheater" craps all over 99% of us on work ethic alone in the gym and at the kitchen table. Dem's da fax.

 

I don't think the Klits are using. They have ridiculous physical advantages they were born with. 6'6'', coordinated guys with good jabs who are strong and know how to box ... how hard is it to dominate a guy much smaller when you have those attributes over all your opponents, have a smart style, are pretty strong, and very coordinated for your size? It's like how hard is it for a 7 foot tall guy to make baskets if he is even remotely athletic?

Hopkins always had extraordinary endurance since he was young, and his clean living and good technique extended his life as a boxer. Guys like Gatti and Hatton who don't really live clean between fights - it starts to show in their performances and they age in the ring. Hopkins has the right style for longevity, and even he has slipped a little bit.

 

I agree. I think he can do it. At the same time, he could be cheating. If no one asks him to test? I believe in his innocence. If someone does and he refuses? I will have doubts.

Why would you feel bad for Boxers? On any level of ANYTHING when you perform at a high level people expect verification. If you are making money hand over fist in business? The government, banks, investors... want to see records. If you are a scientist with a breakthrough? People want peer review and duplicate your experiment.

Doubt in spectacular results is NORMAL and GOOD in that if you can verify that everything is legit it gives EVERYONE a higher standard to aspire to. If you say/show you can do incredible crap people call you out. Boxers aren't to be pitied. It is a compliment to people who can do what they say/show.

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I agree. I hope that is what he won on. I am a B-Hop fan.

Maybe they should make ODST standard if you ask for it, but if the other guy passes? You foot the bill!

 

I think you are missing my point a bit about both Hopkins and the Klits. I don't want to believe the Klits are using either, but those same advantages you speak of come at the price that gravity has on the human skeleton. Add to that the raw impact of boxing? It is a recipe for arthritis, stress injuries, and ligament tears.

How hard is it to outbox guys you are bigger than? Maybe not that hard, but it is less about the opponents and more about the body recovering to do it over, and over, and over, and over again.

Again, I agree with you. I believe in Hopkins' innocence just like I believe in the Klits', however what I believe in more than any one man's innocence are the ravages of high impact sports. So yes, I believe that they are clean, they deserve that, however if someone calls them out and they refuse to test? I have a problem.

 

:good Spot on...If these stans would actually follow the sport as a whole and stop making pointless assumption...People would know that Hopkins never polluted his body and is well known gym rat.

 

Yes, and the klits have had a history of it. I'm just saying Hopkins, and especially Wlad, have a style where they don't take much damage at all, they both fight smart. Vitali not so much, and I think your statement about ligament problems has plagued him more than his brother. Wlad makes it a jabbing game and keeps them on the outside, he just doesn't take much damage. Hopkins has had a very long career but aside from a few exceptions his ability to slow the pace makes him take less punches in a championship fight than I take in three two minute rounds in the ams, there just isn't that much wear and tear on him.

The only fighter who has had SO MUCH wear and tear who seems to show little sign of it at this point ... is Pac. But I want to believe in him, too.