A peak joe louis vs a peak lennox lewis

Hey man; I've been back around here for a few months now. Surpised ya missed it!

 

Ok at some point I'll create a thread (or add to an existing one) regarding the progression of boxing, I'll use Lewis and Louis as examples starting with the Farr and Ruddock fights. This might take a day or two to compile facts and figures, so far I can tell you in Louis's 38 fights from Farr he fought 27 people that by today's standards would be CW's, 5 who are just a couple of lbs over 200 and 6 who would be HWs by today's standards. Also that the average W,L,D record of those fighters pales in comparison to today's average HW opponent, should be interesting......

 

i havent visited the classic section in a while, i guess i kinda lost interest, but now i am definately starting to enjoy it again.

 

Todays records are far more padded so you can't compare the 2

 

Louis KTFO Lewis.

 

W-L-D tallies don't tell the full story, or even come close.
Peter McNeeley was 36-1 when he fought Tyson.
Butterbean was 63-1-3 at one point.

 

Brian Nielsen matched Marciano´s record. :deal

 

evolved in terms of what?

shavers, norton, a prime frazier, lyle, foreman, patterson, quarry, chuvalo, terrel, cleveland williams, and sonny liston.

I am convinced they all could make up for what they lack in weight difference, in terms of sheer will and skill, and successfully beat guys like

peter, brock, Ibragimov? (are you kidding me?), Brewster, a shot rahman, tony thompson, Ray Austin?

Like, don't make me die of laughter bro. ali's resume, head to head, puts wlad's in a deathlock and doesn't let go.

name one thing Wlad can do that Ali can't do much better and quicker? aside from deliver a better single punch?

 

Modern training and nutrition of course. They are simply much better conditioned fighters. Ali wouldn´t be able to take jab of the mighty Wlad.

 

I believe a comparison can be made since today you can't have guys like Roper 60-39-10 fighting for the title. Records were just as padded back then, see Marcianos record for the 15 fights leading upto Walcott - Applegate, Henri and Mitchell are perfect examples.

 

No they weren't, its that simple, a W-D-L ratio today proves little, cross era it proves nothing

 

It should be noted that most of those fighters who would be cruiserweights today, had to beat much bigger men to get their rankings and title shots.

Its not like there was a cruiserweight limit to protect them back then.

These guys were playing in the same sandpit as the big boys and the fact that they weighed less than 200lbs does not detract from their heavyweight rankings in any way.

 

.... until he lost to the legendary Dicky Ryan, who went with a respectable 47-4 record himself.
:good

 

There were less big men, and the big men werent of near the same quality as today

 

Who's better :
The Mike Weaver who fought Larry Holmes ...... or the Peter McNeeley who fought Tyson ?