How will Haye fight Wlad??

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  1. Peter Brit

    Peter Brit Member Full Member

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    The fight will be all about foot speed. Wladimir needs static oppentents Haye is not static. Wladimir's title run is based on dealing with guys with poor footwork. Wladimir's challengers have been shockingly bad.

    Nobody since the first Brewster fight has shown anything but poor footwork. Brewster footwork is not particularily great either.

    Solis by the way would have no problem getting to Wladimir.
     
  2. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye will fight too conservatively and it will cost him a shot at winning most likely. He won't be quite as tentative as against Valuev though, expect his trademark wild flurrying spurts when he bridges the gap.

    Haye will spend too much time on the outside, he is hittable despite being slippery at times. The big problem is Haye can't fight on the inside and Wladimir can clinch with the ugliest of them, so Haye is probably just going to get tied up even from the midrange that he likes to flurry from.
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tyson comparion is a little off he doesnt have the bob weave hook and uppercut style

    I think for option one you should put Sanders

    Catch Wlad early and never let him recover

    His only chance is to A catch him early and dont let him survive

    or B circle and stay out of range like the Valuve fight

    Option B is very boring and safety first something Haye accuses the Klits of doing though I think he does it plenty. Also I dont see how he gets inside the jab he has to just catch him coming in
     
  4. gooners!!

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    Wlad has shown against Peter that he gets disorganized when you back him up, that he's not as effective fighting on the backfoot, that said, its easier said than done, as the recent Sam Peter rematch with Wlad, seemed to suggest that Wlad is not as willing to concede ground as he once was, not without making you pay a price for it anyway.

    If you watch the Peter rematch, count how many right hand bombs Wlad drops on Peter when he tries bore in and attack Wlad, it was clear Peter wanted to back him up, but he was having to eat some major leather to do it, not only that, but Wlad was not going straight back, Steward had him moving off in a circle when he backs up so he doesn't go straight back when someone tries to push him back.


    Haye should try to use his lateral movement to exploit Wlad's rigid style, then when he's resetting him, attack him whilst his in transition to catching up to Haye.
     
  5. BoxingFan2010

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    Very true chef. I think Wald takes the fight.
     
  6. BoxingDomain

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    You obviously didn't see the Solis-Austin fight!
     
  7. BoxingDomain

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    1. Speed is debatable, power is not. Clear advantage to Wlad

    2. No

    3. Says who?

    3. Booth is indeed ******ed
     
  8. Ilesey

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    Disagree. Solis gets kept on the oustide all night long and is made to look a rotund plodder for as long as it lasts.
     
  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Hopefully not like he did Valuev. That was a total disgrace.
     
  10. woodsy1984

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    if Haye lands flush Wlad is ****ed, FACT!, But i wont believe anything until i see these 2 in the ring!
     
  11. CHEF

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    :lol::-(
     
  12. Loufatski

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    Power is the rate at which work is performed, so it's possible that it could be debatable. I think "force" is a better word, which equates to mass times acceleration.
     
  13. HENDO

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    Why don't you elaborate.

    Wlad's trainer himself said the only tall guy that he knew that could fight effectively going backwards was Tommy Hearns.

    With, Valuev's size, reach, and strength advantage, Wlad's chin problems, and reluctance to engage, means that Wlad would be going backwards.

    Wlad can't counterpunch for ****, and his defense has holes in it, that can ESPECIALLY be exploited by someone like Valuev, so this means he will get hit all night by Valuev's long punches.

    If Klitschko has heart, he would win. But don't expect a knockout. Klitschko's shots are too predictable, and Valuev's chin is too strong.

    If you're looking for Steward's quote where he said that, it was in the new Feb 11 issue of the ring in reference to Paul Williams.
     
  14. BoxingFan2010

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    Hendo, only one thing to say, STFU!
     
  15. HENDO

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    We'll see who "STFU" after Haye retires Wlad.