DREAM Dynamite 2010!!!!!!!

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You think? Better GnP but better hands as in striking?
     
  2. nip102

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  3. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Randy "The Natural" Couture!
     
  4. Sloth

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    The reason I say yes is because of the speed he hits with and the vicious follow ups. It just always seems like he comes out better in exchanges. Reem would be SUPER dangerous because of the punches he could set up off the kicks (Like Arlovski was doing). This is one fight I would be sweating bullets.:D
     
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    That is a room full of assault.:lol:
     
  6. scurlaruntings

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    :lol:
     
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    The only way to beat Overeem is by a fast striker (ambush type) - get in and get out. Overeem cannot be submited, he's too powerful. Spong and Saki gived him some trouble.
    Anyway I will not bet against AO in any fight at HW, he's a beast. He has Lesnar's power + skill + experience + good strike = complete fighter.
     
  8. scurlaruntings

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    As small as Saki is this is a bout id love to see when he is healthy. Overeem clearly looks like a guy who fights like he's fallen in love with his power. Saki has that classic Muay Thai aggression and combination striking that was clearly bothering Overeem. If it wasnt for that hyper extended elbow he had im sure the fight would have been much more competitive than it was. The thing with GP's is they tend to reveal who is the toughest fighter. Not neccesarily the best fighter in the tournament.
     
  9. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    http://www.fightopinion.com/2011/01/02/dynamite-2010-bad-rating/#comments

    Full article on the link.

    Satoshi Ishii really is a lame duck in Japan. The fans and press hate him. This guy was meant to the Japanese Ace and saviour of MMA in Japan. There is no way back for him.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

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    Thats because he's boring. Bet he wished he stuck to Judo now. Ishii is somewhat between a rock and a hard place. Great things were expected of him but he doesnt fight the Japanese way. He's more like another Greg Jackson clone. Top control. A few safe sub attempts and ride out a decision. Japanese fans dont want to see that ****.
    Plus Ishii just seems so goofi. Have you seen his interviews? They're cringe worthy. He just doesnt deliver even when he does loose unlike Minowaman and Sakuraba. The press had a field day with him and completely trashed him. He should have signed with the UFC. Wouldnt have made much difference anyway as he'd be back on some small hall show in Japan in no time.
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Watching Minowa go out like that SUCKED. :verysad Wtf has happened to him?

    Kharitonov is a total stud.

    Mousasi-Kyotaro showed why (as if it needed showing) K1 > MMA, in terms of entertainment.

    Aoki...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Overeem..with just one clean punch...:scaredas:

    JLB completely lost me as a fan with his display of poor sportsmanship at the 2010 KW World GP Final 16, so it was good to see him get embarrassed. It's just too bad Ishii didn't break his arm with those kimura attempts.

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    Sakuraba...eww...

    Wicky-Yamato was a pretty good fight overall.

    Sakurai-High was a pretty boring fight overall.

    Kawajiri is the real deal.

    So is Takaya. I look forward to seeing him matched up with Miyata.
     

  12. Overeem is a complete fighter but can be submitted and can be outstruck, Fedor has the arsenal to do both of these. The fight will be very competitive wherever it goes.
     

  13. Fedor throws some odd punches but he does seem to have faster hands, his defenses too seems pretty good. Overeem will definitely test him on the striking department though.
     
  14. nip102

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    The Ratings Are In! Dynamite!!! Is A Bust...

    Now that we've all sobered up and have gotten the New Years celebrations out of our systems, we can finally take a look at what's going on in Japan after a pretty solid Dynamite. The show started off slowly but it definitely picked up and in my mind didn't disappoint with some fantastic fights. If there was a complaint, it was that the card ran extremely long, especially for someone watching the card on the East Coast with a start time of 4am.

    The ratings, which are the most important piece of information when it comes to Japanese television, are in and they aren't good. Actually, the word would be dismal. It has been said over and over again that interest in MMA in Japan is at an all time low and the numbers for Dynamite definitely reflect this fact. The Japanese Ratings are at an all time low for a Dynamite!!! show with the average being 9.8%, a number which doesn't bode well for FEG's future on TBS (Tokyo Broadcasting System). Compared to last year's Dynamite which pulled an average 13%, the most recent show was an absolute bust. Zach Arnold of Fight Opinion had this to say about the relationship between FEG and TBS
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    In the here-and-now, it feels inevitable that the relationship between K-1 and TBS will either significantly change or lead to a divorce. The World MAX, DREAM, and Dynamite shows are in decline on the network. Should TBS divorce itself from K-1, the big question is whether or not Fuji TV will help save the company. While ratings aren’t hot on Fuji TV for K-1 programming, they are steadier than on TBS. The relationship between Kazuyoshi Ishii and Fuji TV is also a much longer one as well.


    At the post-fight press conference, Kazuyoshi Ishii provided some details about the future of the company. The first is that there will be a total overhaul of personnel which was necessary after the horrendous year that FEG had in 2010. The next detail is that they were able to secure the funding to at least last for 2011 with investors from China and Europe. FEG will forgo plans to try and break into North America for K1 since the market is already ruled by Zuffa and the WWE. Instead, look for them to try and expand to Europe and China in 2011.

    The next part of the story is the failure of Satoshi Ishii. I'll let Dave Walsh of Liverkick.com explain.
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    Headlines about the boos that Ishii received were deafening. Ishii the ace of Japan is all-but-dead. The goofy interviews, the terrible performance, the inability to make press conferences and so forth have done him no favors. He needed a dominant win and a solid post-fight interview, ala Sakuraba and Minowaman. Of course, he did not deliver.


    There was a time when Satoshi Ishii was the top prospect coming out of Japan, the savior of Japanese MMA. He was a national hero with his gold medal win at the Olympics and would be a media darling to carry Japanese MMA into the next decade. Fast forward a year and Ishii has become perhaps the biggest bust in MMA. Sure, he has a winning record, but he's done so in disappointing fashion. He looked awful against Jerome LeBanner and the boos drove the point home. He is not who we thought he was and luckily, the Japanese media has not let him off the hook.

    There is a light at the end of the tunnel for FEG, which I'll discuss after the jump.




    Tokyo Broadcasting System is the outlet for DREAM, K1 MAX, and Dynamite. Fuji TV is the outlet for K1 and fortunately, 2010 was a solid year for FEG. They also furthered their relationship with the network and what could be TBS's loss if they decide to cut ties with FEG could be FUJI's gain. The original plan for the shows on TBS were less about fighting about more about infiltrating the other shows on the network and this was a failure. Fuji appears to have a greater interest in combat sports and I would suspect that all of FEG's programming will find its way onto the network very soon.

    Dynamite!!! needed to deliver in a big way and it didn't. There was no Sakuraba retirement match to garner media attention. Shinya Aoki, once the biggest draw in DREAM, lost the remaining luster he once had, and the one major Japanese heavyweight K1 star Kyotaro, was defeated by a blown up light heavyweight in a fight where the K1 Champ looked sluggish from a grueling K1 schedule. Unless there are major storylines in the future, I would expect the decline to continue. The K1 brand is still strong but the MMA aspect may be all but dead.