Jeffries training regime for the Munroe fight

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Since there has been a lot of debate about Jeffries training regime, I have pieced together what I can of his training routine in the run up to the Munroe fight. The following is taken from contemporary newspaper articles quoted in the Pollack biography and does not represent a complete schedule. It must also be noted that Jeffries regime changed considerably between the Fitzsimmons fight and the Munroe fight. Where possible I have listed details of Munroe’s training as well.

    The fight contract was signed on February 29, for a match on May 30th. Jeffries started light gymnasium work and sparring with Joe Kennedy early in March, weighing 235lbs. Jeffries continued with theatrical engagements throughout March, concluding them at the end of the month. He then headed out to San Francisco to start training in earnest. Jeffries had original planned for his training camp to last eight weeks, but the fight was postponed to June 17th at Munroe’s request, because he said he needed more time.

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    janitor, Jan 3, 2011
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  2. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Now THAT's how you really train for a fight. :lol: Thanks for the info jan, good read.
     
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  3. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doves dont hit back
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    When I describe a fighters training regime I always list what they did for recreation, because more often than not it is relevant.
     
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  5. Johnstown

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    Yea...his recreation is physical at least....some guys probley go and play the xbox (not the kenetic version)
     
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  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It is a bit late, but here is Jeffries dressed up as santa.

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  7. gentleman jim

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    So much for boxers not employing weights in thier training regiments. Boxers always used weights, usually in the form of dumbbells or wall pulleys. Dempsey used them often as did Sullivan and many others as well. What they didn't do was use them for bodybuilding or cosmetic purposes...That's when they begin to run into trouble. Interesting how Jeffries used sandbag training...Something many percieve as a new innovation in sports training. What's old is now new again eh? These old timers trained thier asses off! Fascinating post...Much appreciated.
     
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  8. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Yes to all of them.
     
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  9. Johnstown

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    true..i remember back in the 90's holyfields fittness guy saying how they where getting away from old school running....

    old school guys do all the same speed long slow runs...., he said they would do those kind of runs once a week..but otherwise do sprints and interval running...very slow runs with sprints..hill work..all that.


    then a few years ago i read jack dempseys book championship fighting..and he talked about running.

    said he would sometimes do long slow runs..but would sometimes do a slow run and then sprint till he was exhausted...shadow box....run slow again..then sprint (didnt use the the word jog of course) and everything else he actually described sounded very "modern" except for without all the fancy medical sounding words..its then that i realized that most of the differences between "old school" and "new school" where bull****.
     
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  10. reznick

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    Peirce Egan, the father of boxing in England in the middle of the 18th century says the same. In his book Boxiana, written in 1840, he instructs trainers to have their fighters to long run changing pace from jogging to sprinting often. He puts emphasis on this.


    By the way, did Jefferies start camp at 250? Wow thats big
     
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  11. janitor

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    Dumbells have been used by fighters going back at lest as far as yankee Sullivan. Certainly nothing new there.

    What is different to modern fighters is the way the old timers used weights. It was more like a body pump class than a body building session.
     
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  12. HomicideHenry

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    Look at Sullivan's training schedule with Muldoon for the Kilrain bout, more than half the time Sullivan was milking cows and pulling plows through fields on Muldoon's estate....
     
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  13. janitor

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    Sullivan was clearly starting from a much lower starting point.

    He was a badly disipated physical wreck going into training for the Killrain fight, while Jeffries never let himself get badly out of shape as champion.
     
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  14. bodhi

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    I think there is a difference between old timers and modern guys in training. Science means their training is more adepted to them and their needs, it´s more refined at the top. The question is though, if it makes a big enough difference. I don´t think so, I think if you have reached a certain point in conditioning the positive difference, the gain is so minimal that it isn´t important anymore. This is when mental qualities, skills, technigue, ring intelligence and so on are the things that make the difference.

    I don´t think the conditioning of Jeffries and Holyfield is different enough to make a difference in a fight between them.
     
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  15. janitor

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    There is also probably a certain value to believing that your training regime is second to none.
     
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