If GSP beats Silva at MW, does he approach Fedor-status

Almost every win Fedor has had are against legends and hall of famers, he fought the best the HW division had to offer weighing 215 pounds... it's basically impossible and unfair to compare Fedor to any other fighter.

 

No....it isnt.

 

I'm not going to count... but check how many champions Fedor has beaten it has to be around 10.

off the top of my head

Minatauro
Cro Cop
Arlovski
Sylvia
Randleman
Cloeman
Sorbal
Aarona
Schilt

etc etc etc

GSP has beaten

Hughes
Sherk
BJ Penn

you can't be serious...

 

I can be serious, not disputing Fedor's record, it exemplary. Just dont agree it's unfair to compare other fighters too him. Not that many do compare, but Id say GSP is one of them, if not the only one. Now whoever you rate higher is 100% up to you. But for Fedor fanboys to get butt hurt is a bit silly.
It's like the MMA equivalent of drawing a picture of Muhammad

 

Since when has Fedor weighed 215Ibs? He always competed in the plus 220 weight class in sambo and judo and usually weighed above 230Ibs in MMA.

 

And a massive 78% of the fighters hes faced/scheduled to face has been American, and has only fought two people from Europe (and thats it) the rest being from the America's.

Fedor's fights have been like the united nations, with flags from different corners of the globe.


Also GSP has been fighting the same guys over and over.
Josh Koscheck x 2
Matt Serra x 2
Matt Hughes x 3
B.J. Penn x 2

 

Exactly the guy fights HW and SHW who not only towers over him but usually outweigh and out muscle him by a huge margin. Fedor has also fought against the legends of MMA, the legends of Judo, the legends of BJJ, and the legends of kickboxing and won etc. GSP really hasnt fought anyone as specific or as accomplished both outside and inside MMA and hasnt even faced a K-1 level kickboxer.

 

The number you were looking for is 235...Fedor, most of the time, weight 235... !

 

UFC scraps in other words. The same organisation you claim GSP has to leave to fight 'the best' in your words
Dont talk like Fedor intentionally fought guys from other parts of the world like he's some world wide ambassador, bringing peace and harmony to all mankind, and GSP is afraid of Asains and Europeans. GSP fights for an American organisation, so common sense dictates there will be one or two Americans fights for said org. And Fedor never did remtaches right?
Name some of these guys GSP should be facing please? Id love to know, because you never name names, just a half assed 'them'. Why isnt Fedor fighting Overeem, Werdum, or Cain & JDS for that matter? I respect him but Big Foot Silva was just nearlty ko'd by a natural 205er, is that 'top' competition in relation to GSP? REALLY? The Nog & Cro cop fights were 5 years ago, argue about ethnicity all you want, but you cant deny GSP hasnt been facing better competition in that time can you really. Ohhh wait, Fitch, Alves, Kos Penn, Hughes, Sherk and Miller all cant fight isnt that right. And only one of them isnt American, GSP must be ****, you've convinced me. I suppose fighting guys who cant get out of the 1st round with Fedor is a reflection of how great he is and not a reflection on how tough his comp has been compared to GSP, because he isnt exciting and only dominates people for 25 minutes at a time

 

I agree, Fedor has that unbridled style. You give him a Jackson style training throughout his career and He would have been unstoppable and I mean no one even comes close.

 

One or two is understandable but closer to 80% from one country is downright garbage. Fedor fought most of his career in Japan, yet 80% of his fights aren’t against Japanese fighters. Fedor did rematches when it called for it, the Nog rematch was great and was highly anticipated for two top fighters. GSP on the other hand just keeps on fighting the same guys over and over and over.

There are many guys that might not be rated highly by Zuffa media that would be worthy fighters. Look at the guys who defeated Anderson Silva, these guys weren’t highly rated by North American media sources, yet they succeeded. Hey, Fedor just fought Werdum, most likely will fight Overeem in the upcoming SF tourney, and Cain and JDS cant be done because unlike all the other promotions, UFC doesn’t like its fighters fighting the best of the best from other promotions.

Unlike Fedor, GSP plays it safe and doesn’t go in for the kill. He is typical of UFC fighters who would rather play the blanket game. GSP gets plenty of decisions because of this and because he simply isn’t as skilled as Fedor to properly dominate and knock off some heads or take home an arm as trophy.

 

What exactly is Jackson style training?

 

He fought Hughes 3 times, twice as challenger. After he went 1-1 with Hughes a rubber match is called for isnt it?
BJ Penn was on a tear at Lightweight and had taken GSP very close in the 1st match. But fighting Penn every 3 years is just padding your record I guess
Matt Serra had beaten him once, pure & simple revenge match
Kos fight was made because it was the most sellable fight out there after GSP had beaten everyone else
So which of these rematches in the context of the time they were fought were uncalled for? Kos at a push? Explain to me, dont be vague homie.
There are MANY guys are there, name one? There are many guys who beat Fedor's opponents before he did, I wouldnt think of beating Fedor with that stick. So humour me, name them, dont be vague homie
And apart from Overeem, all the other fighters are signed exclusively to Strikeforce arent they? Im might be wrong on this and it needs explaining to us Zuffa Zombies how good these 'best in other promotions' really are,(excluding Strikeforce obviously) so once again, name them. Dont be vague homie.
Heavyweight fights tend to get finished more often than not, that's why it's considered the 'glamour' division, for the excited ment. But lets look at this rationally.
Of course you cant really argue that Fedor fights are not more exciting. And yes, maybe if you were a glory hunter basking in reflected glory and using that as an excuse to **** on other fighters with your copy and paste bull****. So lets examine it by numbers, cause when someone offers a rational alternative, you pull some bull**** like that out your arse
Fedor's last 5 wins
Brett Rodgers - 2 loses, got ktfo by Fedor and Overeem, best win is against a man who lost a decision to Big Foot. The same Silva who was given hell in his last outing by a LHW. Got the fight with Fedor for beating this man by ko
Arlovski - Lost a whopping 4 times by knockout before facing Fedor
Sylvia - finished 5 times, and lost a decision to Randy who schooled him after a year long retirement
Choi - More submission loses than wins in MMA
Lindlan - 22 wins, 8 loses and is a natural MIDDLEWEIGHT!!!

GSP's last 5
Kos has 5 loses, knocked out and subs 1 each, the other 3 were decisions
Hardy - Poorest record of GSP's last 5. 23-8. Closest GSP was to finishing, with a torn groin from the 3rd round on
Alves - Has 6 loses in total 3 by sub, 1 by ko. Last sub loss was in 2005, only ko loss was in 2006
BJ Penn. A natural lightweight, his only stoppage loses are against ATG WW's Hughes and GSP
Fitch - lost ONCE to GSP

So explain to me the difference in quality between Fedors last 5 and GSP's. Oh dont forget, dont be vague homie

 

I don't know much about you MonaroCountry, but according to your comments there just seems to be such a deep hate towards the UFC that makes all your comments so biased, try to be more objective and not entirely against everything branded UFC.

Your comments do make sense and you know what you're talking about but I just can't seem to take it seriously as all of them could be summed up by ''UFC Sucks!''

I agree with the fact that Top MMA HW are clearly not all in the UFC, but it really goes down as the only division the UFC doesn't rule. I don't see any WW outside the UFC that would clearly get past Jon Fitch, let alone GSP.

 

The main problem is basically how these people could claim to have the best fighters fighting the best if they wont allow champions from other promotions fight. This is what happened to the HW division where just a few months ago people claimed Brock, Carwin, Mir etc as all within the top 5 fighters in the world. In reality though, all these fighters fought inadequate matches where their skills and experiences were eventually found wanting. The Zuffa biased media in unison proclaimed them to be the best, just as they proclaim GSP and Anderson Silva to be the best.....however because of Zuffa's champions clause, these fighters CAN NEVER fight other fighters outside the UFC. Look at Anderson Silva as an example, he currently dominates the UFC yet could not stamp the same authority when fought in Pride. Sometimes, style makes fight and sometimes different regions have their own fighting style and preferences. Anderson Silva for example is regarded as having the best kickboxing in America, however I doubt he would be regarded as such if he fought in a United Glory event, the same with GSP and his styles.

I like what Strikeforce is trying to do, SF is inviting fighters from other promotions to compete in either a co-promoted event or as representatives of their promotions. This is where MMA should be going and NOT a WWE model.