I don't see what was so special about Mayweather vs Gatti?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Raskolnikov, Jan 4, 2011.


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  1. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    Seriously, I don't.


    This was a fight just like Trinidad vs Mayorga where an opponent with NO DEFENCE AT ALL made the winner look like peak Sugar Ray Robinson.

    When a guy like Mayorga or Gatti turns up above their best weight and beyond their peak, and face a guy with every conceivable advantage under the sun (power, strength, speed, skill, etc) then it's really not all that impressive when they get utterly devastated.

    Against a guy who walks blindly forward and has no defence, anyone looks sensational. Some of the combinations Tito hit Mayorga with were insane, SRR calibre stuff, but that was because he was basically hitting a heavy bag... and it was the same with Mayweather-Gatti.



    Another point to consider is that Oscar De La Hoya had already fought a younger, fresher, better version of Arturo Gatti, and did the exact same thing to him... except in less time. ODLH was hitting Gatti with every punch in the book, ripping him to the body, and landing at a horrendously high connect percentage.

    So what was so special about Floyd emulating that performance years later???



    If you ask me what Floyd's most impressive display of skills was, the Gatti fight does not even come into my thinking.

    That would be like saying Roy Jones's best outing was against Vinny Pazienza or Pacquiao's most sublime showing was David Diaz. Mayweather-Gatti comfortably fits in alongside this calibre of win, the kind of win that ANY top fighter is capable of achieving; looking superhuman vs a very, very outmatched opponent.



    I much prefer the versatility, inside game and finishing poise that Floyd showed when met with some actual semi-intelligent resistance by Ricky Hatton (Hatton was above his best weight of course, but still a class performance). :good
     
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  2. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    the fact that gattis offence was so neutralised by floyd

    the goldern girl is much bigger naturaly than gatti as he went on to prove

    gatti was a solid champ... with alot of heart

    watch his trilogy with ward...

    hattons not semi intelligent either btw ... hes a caveman
     
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  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The only person who thought it was a big deal was Mayweather for some reason. Your right Gatti was easy to beat, but Mayweather was just happy the arena was full because he couldnt draw flies at that time. He finally learned he needed an opponent to fill up an arena.
     
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  4. horst

    horst Guest

    What would watching his trilogy with Ward prove exactly? :huh

    That he was a slugger that was absolutely tailor-made for Floyd?
     
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  5. kingmiller8282

    kingmiller8282 Active Member Full Member

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    Ok **** :happy:happy
     
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  6. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    That performance was, to me, aesthetically pleasing. Yes it was against a non-threatening punch-bag, but it still allowed us to see how incredibly gifted Floyd was/is. He reduced a world-champion to nothing more than an obtuse club-fighter. That’s gotta count for something.
     
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  7. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    i was talking about gattis heart in fights.... i get he wasnt tyzu but he was just a solid a champ as ricky hatton was... apart from the unbeaten at 140 buisnes
     
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  8. Raskolnikov

    Raskolnikov Guest

    How was it any different/better than any other overmatched fight though? Tito's combinations were insane vs Mayorga, Pacquiao slashed Diaz to pieces and knocked him cold, ODLH hit Gatti with every shot in the book and got a stoppage quicker than Floyd did vs the same opponent, RJJ completely humiliated Vinny Paz...


    ...etc etc etc. It was routine. Any top fighter looks supernatural against an overmatched opponent with no defence.
     
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  9. Chunk

    Chunk tallaght boy Full Member

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    I love pbf but that was a joke of a fight! Mayweather was always in a different league to gatti....he looked great in the fight and gatti earned him a few quid but in the big scheme of things the fight didnt mean a whole lot.....basically a good workout for mayweather
     
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  10. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fair enough.

    I just like that fight because it illustrated how Floyd was worlds above the 'good' fighters. The victory itself wasn't amazing, but the skills he exhibited were.
     
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  11. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It's not a great win or anything, i remember at the time people thought Gatti had a chance and i thought the whole planet had gone collectively insane, it is a fine dusplay of punching though
     
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  12. VecArrow

    VecArrow Custom User Title Full Member

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    Wasn't anything special or impressive, just a very entertaining fight.
    Especially the 6th.
     
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  13. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some at the time said that Gatti was too big and tough for Floyd. Most thought Floyd would win but few expected it to be the beating that it was.

    Gatti was a belt holder on a 5 fight winning streak and it was only Floyd's third fight above lightweight. When is the last time Pac fought someone who had won 5 fights in a row?

    Another lame attempt by *******s to deflect attention away from Pacquiao's cherry picking? :verysad
     
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  14. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    man only wish we had a hatton v gatti fight..
     
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  15. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this fight was nothing more than a popular fighter with severely limited skills and a big heart against a prodigy.

    this was also the fight where floyd realised he could make some serious cash and could compromise on his repertoire to keep it coming in.
     
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