Ali Hypocrite

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  1. alexvoce

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    Hypocritical how clay wouldn't fight in Vietnam on religious/race grounds or whatever.

    But he's willing to take money from the corrupt Marcos regime which were killing civilians and starving them to fight in manilla for pay cheque.
     
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  2. teeto

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    **** i see now that your whole calling him Clay goes deeper than purely for boxing reasons. This isn't my field, have fun.
     
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  3. Jorodz

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    and torture patterson and terrell in the ring

    still, the greatest heavyweight of all time
     
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  4. alexvoce

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    Thats why frazier did him.
     
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  5. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that is your opinion and that of many others myself though i would go for louis as the best and as the one who done more for blacks in america, but then that is what makes boxing so intriguing we all have our own views
     
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  6. salsanchezfan

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    Ehm........Frazier was there taking money too, sport.


    Isn't it exhausting hating someone so much? :lol:
     
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  7. alexvoce

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    i agree louis was the best and he did more for black people than ali. Ali end of the day was doing it for his own benefit.

    He was the most commercial person that is in fact giving himself to the fight man. When he sold 80% of his image rights that was selling himself to the white man
     
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  8. Jorodz

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    damn right it is. there would be no point to a forum if everything was fact or objectively decided already
     
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  9. alexvoce

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    did frazier get involved with any politics or anything to do with vietnam? NO

    Frazier just wanted to box.
     
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  10. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    hmm let me think.. if i was a african-american and i was treated as a second rang person.. not being able to sit where i want in a bus and stuff like that.. what was happening in america in the 60ties..
    and then also my country wasn't in danger or under attack. but was the agressor in a internal conflict in a small south asian country..
    would i go and risk my life ???? **** it.. let the presidents and kings and all goverment people of the countries in the world fight there own wars..
    i only fight for my loved ones.. so ali hypocrite ??? not in this matter
     
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  11. junior-soprano

    junior-soprano Active Member Full Member

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    P.S. the corrupt marcos regime as you called it was loved by the american goverment.. america supported a lot of corrupt regimes wich tortured people..
    as long as they where anti-communisme it was okay for the usa
     
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  12. alexvoce

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    I thought Ali was against America? so he goes and does a favour for America but wont do another favour for fighting in vietnam even more hypocritical.
     
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  13. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali could have made this easier on everybody.
    Our soldiers were the ones who were exploited.
    He should have just made a deal with the U.S. Government, and went
    on a damn exhibition tour with Howard Cosell shilling for him.

    C'mon,,going with Bob Hope on a Vietnam tour,,,,,was it really that difficult.
     
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  14. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Joe took the pay cheque too, and rightly so
     
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  15. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    OK , i'll bite. Whilst yourself and the threadstarter are doing a fine job of exposing Ali's 'reluctance' to fight in vietnam, could you both also acknowledge his part in securing the release of over 100 hostages in Iraq during Saddams reign? Im interested to hear both your takes on this

    I love bob hope, greatest english comedian ever after chaplin and laurel,but he never did anything like this.
     
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