Ring 100

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by KERRZO, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I picked holes in Ward's opposition because there are huge holes in them. Not his fault, he's turned up and gone to work every time. I like Ward, but he's vastly overrated on account of the Kessler win.

    And I'm hardly going to make a point then go about trying to provide a counter-point: that's your job on the other side of the argument.

    Lopez's opposition is markedly better. His last three wins combined are much higher quality than Ward's. The ranking doesn't really come into it.
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think you've got Segura a bit high...... I know you like your alphabets but the only decent name on his record is a faded Calderon, who'd been heading for defeat for quite a while now.
     
  3. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Ah the old boxrec argument, alright. It wasnt a schooling but Bradley won very clearly. I dont call a 10-2 fight competitive.
     
  4. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    exactly. I had Bradley winning at least 10 rounds i seem to remember, but they were all 2-1 rounds rather than 3-0 if you no what I mean.
     
  5. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    but the rounds were competative. It wasnt like a Calzaghe vs Lacy style fight. Perterson was never in trouble, out of his depth.

    Peterson is also a decent fighter.
     
  6. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Calderson was lineal champ for quite a number of years and undefeated. Maybe he was heading that way but Segura beat him.
     
  7. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    this is where we disagee.
     
  8. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    I'd come to that conclusion many posts ago, dude. If I was writing an article about it you wouldn't see any of my personal opinion, but we're on a forum - so i can let my opinions run wild.
     
  9. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Peterson is a decent fighter, but Bradley is a very good one. He wasnt outclassed, but he was never really in the fight. I dont call not being outclassed competitive, I call it losing clearly but not being schooled.
     
  10. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    This is how I would rank a loss from best to worst.

    Robbed - Rodrigurez vs Theophane
    Tight - Martinez vs Burns
    Competative - Munroe vs Nishioka
    Outclassed - Mosley vs Mayweather
    Schooled - Lacy vs Calzaghe

    Peterson goes into the competative category.
     
  11. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    So there is no such thing as a loss in between competitive and outclassed?:huh I wouldnt have called either Peterson or Munroe competitive in their respective fights seeing as both lost almost every round.
     
  12. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    yeh but they were competative in every round.
     
  13. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Even so, I wouldnt call it a competitive fight. A competitive fight is like an 8-4, not a 10-2.
     
  14. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Forget the scores and focus on what happened in the rounds.

    Say you have to give 5 points in total to the two fighters. so it can be anything off

    5-0
    4-1
    3-2

    All of the rounds in the Munroe and Peterson fighters were 3-2 rounds. You get what I am saying?
     
  15. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Being competitive in rounds is different to being competitive in the fight in general though. You can be competitive in the rounds but still lose 12-0, hence it isnt really a competitive fight.