Why do so many K2 opponents complain about negotiations?

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  1. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post.
    Don King might want that, but it's not going to happen.
     
  2. Shane W

    Shane W Former Heavyweight Full Member

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    Think about that........Briggs would have loved to slam them. He had hated on them for years.........now he is thier biggest fan. They can't be that bad, Briggs would have been ALL OVER IT.:deal
     
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  4. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ah, sorry, mate, I got you confused with Rob earlier.

    Great post though. When you get a fight like Pavlik/Williams, for one completely random example, breaking up over money, that's fine. It's boxing and we all know it happens in our sport. However, when fight after fight gets broken down because of accusations of poor offers, you really do have to ask questions. Such a long list of potential opponents all saying the same thing is suspicious. Heavily suspicious.

    Like I said, people constantly call Arum and King thieves who only look out for themselves but I ask anyone - Which promoter has had so many accusations of bad negotiating in such a short space of time? I can't think of anyone who is close, never mind who surpasses K2.
     
  5. homebrand

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    chisora talked about negotiations for his fight, even though his contract stipulated he wasn't supposed to. the result: no fight.
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pretty interesting how Haye wanted open negotiations and K2 didn't. K2 purposely instructed Chisora and Warren to not get into specific contract details.

    I don't understand why they are worried about that.
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He also asked Wlad what he likes better, his belts or his girlfriend. Funny coming from a guy who was sentenced 3 weeks later for beating up his GF. Too bad Wlad didn't beat the woman abusing **** out of Del Boy...
    Boxing negotiations are NOT public, never were, the media is simply involved when it's already about promotion or when one side wants to ***** about publickly how they are not happy with the other.

    In Europe negotiations, purses and stuff are totally behind doors and tagged non of your business, and Haye didn't negotiate with Macca, Mormeck, Valuev (& the Sauerland deal) and Carl Thompson open either, or messaged through the media "Audley, you go down in the third when I say 'now'. I'm off betting on it right now!'
     
  8. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua, Toney, Dimitrenko, Adamek, Mormeck, Haye, Povetkin, Valuev, Chisora and Solis. Add to those Lewis and Byrd before they were self promoting, all in one division, all in the space of 10 years, Arum and King can't touch that.

    People still defend them though, it's not the brothers, nooooooo, it's all the chicken **** duckers of course.:roll:
     
  9. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not only that

    its also the ridiculous 3 way contracts

    and unwilling to pay standard promoter expenses like medical or travel

    Ive never heard anythign like it to be honest
     
  10. p4pBute

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    i remember hearing storys about roy jones getting 7 million an the guys he fought getting 500,000.
    The Champ is the one with somthing to lose, once you get that title, then you can make the calls. Unless you have a huge fan base, that is going to be the real cash cow of the fight, then you have to take what your given. 70/30 is not uncommon, i am sure ruiz didn't get 50/50 split with hayes, what did hayes give barrett, my guess less then 70/30, if he didn't, he is a fool
     
  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They aren't public, no, but they aren't ever hidden either. How many times do you hear a side specifically say "Don't go public"? Why would they even need to say that, if there's nothing to hide?
     
  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. In the business of boxing you're only as strong as much money you can generate and the opponents bring **** all compared to the Klitschkos, end of story. Know your place at the table and thanks God it's not a Don King sitting at the other end but two classy guys who are a credit to the sport while the Mayweather and Haye try to keeping it low.

    Both Povetkin and the Fixmaker bitched out of their career-high payday they signed for and people are complaining about how weak the Klitschkos era? :lol: Some just don't want to fight them, others, Chisora with Warren barking in the back, Solis unfortunately with Öner and King, and Haye of course with Booth and some sort of not-publicly negotiated deal with Sauerland - of course they complain because they have to pay their promoters as well.
     
  13. BigBone

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    Tell me, was the Haye-Valuev deal - plus some sort of pact with Sauerland - negotiated in public?

    NO!

    Haye fans only ***** about open negotiations because their boy bitches about it, nobody else gives a **** about the procedure, I mean we are paying for it not getting a cut of it, so why should we bother? I only care about the wealth of the fighters who were unfairly treated and deserve all the credit and respect. Sergio Maravilla Martinez is one of them, David 'I broke my back' Haye and Dereck 'I beat up women' Chisora are not.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, I'm not saying every fight has had public negotiations but, there's a difference between not releasing the details to the public because you don't need to and being told not to.

    If K2 had nothing to hide, why would they reject the call for public negotiations?
     
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    How the **** would you even know you ****? Exactly. So you shut the **** up.