nazim richardson on pac vs. mayweather

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  1. gooners!!

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    Agree with the first part, but I think your overlooking two key factors, Floyd's legs, and his far superior reach, and that for me, is the key to this fight, why Floyd will win, that and Manny's leaky defense, inability to cut the ring down.

    Morales outboxed Manny, he was hardly a refined fighter either, now I take the point it was a long time ago, but even recently, against Marquez (rematch), he showed that he still has issues with counter punchers, and that was not all that long ago, there were also spots against Cotto where by he got outboxed, just that Cotto is so open defensively, is prone to getting embroiled in a fire fight, Manny was able to shake him out of his game plan.

    Manny wont be able to jump across the killzone at Mayweather without paying a price, now whilst Mayweather is not a combination punching counter puncher, he's longer than Marquez, meaning any potential gap Manny has to leap across with that straight left, will be bigger, giving Mayweather more time to react with a counter, also, Mayweather moves after countering, he doesn't have to fight you off like Marquez cause Marquez stays in the same place.
     
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    I doubt nazim said that, if all we've got is your word then i dont believe it.
    Nazim is a smart man and knows boxing, and if you do and you unbiased, you will always go with floyd.
    Of course manny is fast and punches alot, but floyd's defense is so superior im sure he will school manny, he will beat him mentally and physically very well.
    I see manny punching the air alot, floyd counter punching, floyd knocking manny of balance, team pacquiao getting frustrated and manny losing patience whilst mayweather will remain calm and outbox pacquiao just like he outboxes every other fighter.
     
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    (With all due respect) Mayweather is NO Cotto!
     
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    Hey man, Cunningham whip up on garbage ass Chambers in sparring?
     
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    Cotto also got stopped hard in the later rounds with his face looking like something you'd find on a butcher's block...

    Analytical fail on your part my friend. Fail. :deal
     
  7. Nay_Sayer

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    That's a stupid analogy. Floyd is as fast and athletic as is Pacquiao - if not more so.

    And if Floyd is a sucker for the Southpaw hook, maybe you can post a youtube video of him getting caught with it....
     
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    Used to train at Shulers. How're they doin, there?
     
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    i think floyds acuracy and speed is his power,but pac can really put the combos on floyd if floyd doesnt let his hands go enough.

    i dont think floyd can run from pac,pac has equally good foot speed.

    can hit and land with either hand with power.

    can counter with either hand effectively,will make floyd really move and be more active than he wants to be.

    course floyd need to escape jail and man up.
     
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    Cunningham was the busier guy but Eddie is not garbage n he got the better of exchanges whole landing the cleaner, effective punches .
     
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    if the fight will be so one sided why all the interest mustafa?
     
  12. renyo

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    Floyd has excellent footwork, but his footspeed has slowed a lot...You can see the man fighting FLATFOOTED these days and not at the end of the fight.. Reach is always a positive advantage, but Pac fights like a smaller man is supposed to.. By using a lot of movement, speed, and getting his opponent out of position..

    Pac has always had more difficulty with counterpunchers, but moreso boxer puncher types, not pure boxers... Combination punching is key to beating Pac, and I mean 4,5,6 shots at a time... Being able to get your own shots off under heavy fire is the ticket.. however Pac is a better fighter than even the 2nd JMM fight, and I think he's finally realized he can't just bulldoze everyone.. So we actually see him being the first one to retreat these days.. Get in, get off, get out...

    I can't stress enough Floyd being a reactionary fighter.. He can't wait for Pac to reset, because he's always set..
     
  13. renyo

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    That fight is very relative...

    If you want to see Floyd in against a fast athletic guy, just watch the Hatton fight.. Hattons footspeed caused Floyd early problems, only when he slowed did Floyd take over... pac won't slow that much he fights hard every fight, floyd hasn't had to...

    As far as floyd and hooks go... do your own homework..
     
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    Eddie is ****ing fast.

    Cunningham is pretty damn big for a cruiser. If you look at them both together you'd be surprised who the HW is.
     
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    emmanuel gets stopped