David Haye pulls out of July fight, says Klitschko fight is dead

Can someone answer this for me please? I would prefer to see Haye fight VK, so is there anything standing in the way of that fight happening?

 

All I know is that Bönte has always said the fight will only happen where it will make the most revenues, period.

Now I understand the UK and US are viable options, but couldn't it possibly be that the most revenues would be generated in Germany and that's why they one by one dismissed the UK and the US -- after looking at the numbers?

I mean it's a possibility isn't it, even if a remote one?

 

There are legal issues with Oner, who is trying to force Solis/Vitali, so that fight looks almost certain. I know that usually fighters can pay step aside money but, for whatever reason, Vitali hasn't done that.

If he wants Haye, he should offer Solis money and call Haye out. I bet in a few days, we'll hear about the Vitali/Solis fight going to purse bids though.

 

You are proving your Haye nuthugging status with that ****.

You really buy into everything that comedian says, don't you? Did you happen to take a look at WHAT Wlad wanted?

To come out 2nd... like the Champ is supposed to?:scaredas:
To PICK HIS OWN GLOVES!! Instead of Haye picking Wlad's gloves?
To be featured first on the promotional publications.... like the Champ is supposed to be.:admin
I think that I heard something about wanting the dreaded... RED CORNER!!!:!: Wow, this must have been a tough concession for David Haye. :-(

Yeah... and they are fighting in Germany, where Haye DEMANDED that the fight take place last time around. Because Germany means bigger crowd, more money, and if Haye pulls out AGAIN, Wlad can keep his venue and get another fighter in.... AGAIN.

You act like Wlad wanted Haye to weigh 190 lbs, tie his shoes together, and fight blind folded or something.

 

It's very unlikely. I just can't see how, with the stronger pound, a bigger venue and the fact British fans pay more per ticket, that the fight could possibly make more money in Germany. It just doesn't make sense. I think the difference in money would be huge.

As for America, it's a neutral venue and the selling point. If they are going to have the fight in the place where it makes the most money, Britain, then surely the next logical choice is a neutral venue? A fight in Vegas or New York would make big money.

Yet, no. Klitschko demanded Germany and got it when he wouldn't budge.

 

No, nothing in the way if both VK and Haye want the fight. I don't recall Haye mentioning Vitali as a viable opponent for him in many months now, he doesn't seem interested in him.

 

WBC will have no problems sanctioning unification instead of mandatory. It seems that Haye does not want to fight Chagaev but the only way around is unification. The earliest date that unification can be made is on July 2nd. Neither Wald or Vitali are willing to idle until that date. So here we go.

 

1. USA would reduce earnings from UK PPV because of the 5 hour time difference, hence it certainly would limit the revenues. The fight wouldn't go on PPV in America neither hence it makes no sense to hold it in the US from a financial point of view.

2. What history does the UK have for 70,000 audience box fights?

* Lewis vs Bruno which was a huge event in the UK in the 90s -- it drew 25,000
* Ali vs. London in the UK drew an audience of 14,000

What was the last mega fight in the UK that sold 60k, 70k or 80k seats?

3. A stadium fight between Haye and Wlad would sell out within a few days in Germany. 70,000 easy.

4. The EUR is about 40% higher vs. the British Pound than it was 10 years ago. Not sure what you mean with "the strong Pound"? The British currency has been trashed as the Brit economy is in a depression.

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:rofl:rofl:rofl Great post. Although I feel that it is Wlad who has ****ed it up this time round these so called 'concessions' that Haye has made are laughable.

 

Coming out second isn't an issue. I think Wlad deserves that. Picking his own gloves, again, is fine. I always think both fighters should pick their own. Again, no issue with his name being first. The red corner seemed like it could be a sticking point. Why were they so ridiculously adamant? Again, though it's not a problem.

What is a problem is them demanding 50% when Haye brings in more money than Wlad. That's not debatable. What is a problem is them insisting on fighting in Germany, where it makes less sense and money than either Britain or America. Wlad once said "I'll fight Haye anywhere". Unless "Anywhere" is a small town in Germany, he's a liar.

And when Haye agreed to fight there, he had barely anything to offer so maybe it did make financial sense. However, Haye is coming off a fight which sold out incredibly quickly and sold 750,000 PPV buys against a guy who wasn't considered a threat. Haye is not a superstar and he wasn't in 2009.

Your posts are weird. Sometimes you seem like a decent poster but then you get into these weird debates, where you act like you're about 7. I mean, seriously, how can you refer to the 2009 fight and act like it's relevant today?

 

Dont warry if chag will train properly and he will, he will kick hey a--s all over the place. same he did to valuev( he won clean desigion)

 

thumbsup

 

It would make less money there, yeah, but the PPV's generally do well because Sky have a strong undercard at a reasonable time too. Hatton sold a million PPV's twice fighting in America, so it's not like there's a significant drop.

We only have a few arenas which are suitable for boxing. Hatton/Lazcano did 55,000, Calzaghe/Kessler did over 50,000 but these are generally the limit. The only arena suitable for a Wlad/Klitschko fight would be Wembley and Booth is confident they'd sell it out, as are the people who run Wembley.

Yeah, I agree. It would here though, no question. Again, British tickets are a lot more expensive than in Germany too. It's like Mayweather and Pacquiao. Mayweather sells less tickets but each ticket costs more, so he ends up making more money in the end.

The price of our tickets is significant. 70,000 seats in Germany is probably equivalent to under 50,000 here.

That doesn't really matter. The pound is still worth more than the Euro, even if it is going down. That's besides the point though, obviously. Right now, the pound is stronger.

 

Then thats up to Vitali, right? If the WBC will sanction a Vitali/Haye fight, then Vitali needs to pay Solis a few quid and we can get the fight on. What the WBC do is nothing to do with Haye and Vitali needs to make the first step. Right now, Haye considers Vitali unavailable and he is because he's contractually obliged, right now, to fight Solis. Vitali needs to make himself available for the Haye fight to happen because, until then, there's absolutely nothing Haye can do apart from consider Vitali unavailable.

 

dealdeal Wlad is a *****, fighting a 14-fight novice who has no skill instead of David Haye.