Does anybody remember this old boxing star

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  1. HALTON BOXING

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    Alf Howard middleweight liverpool

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    rounds boxed 461 KO% 49.28 First 'Top of the Bill' at the new Liverpool Stadium, St Paul's Square
    20/10/1932
     
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    don't know about alf howard but alfie matthews was a good liverpool middle as was the bootle bulldog, harry scott
     
  4. HALTON BOXING

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    my dad remembers alfie matthews and harry scott was alfie matthews from the maple leaf
     
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    yes he was.his daughter used to live in ormskirk........very nice.
    alfie ko'd my trainer in the aba's........his only time
     
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    Alf Howard

    Of all the fighters Liverpool has produced the man with the biggest punch pound
    For pound was the lightweight Alf Howard. His reign during the 1920’s and
    Early 1930’s saw him belt out a succession of thrilling quick victories .

    The british title eluded him but in 1930 he became the first Liverpool boxer
    To win a European title. Alf died in 1959, aged 53, but the legend of his
    Career lives on. He was without peer as a puncher and took part in some of the
    Most thrilling of his, or any other era.


    Of all the fighters Liverpool has produced the man with the biggest punch pound For pound was the lightweight Alf Howard. His reign during the 1920’s and Early 1930’s saw him belt out a succession of thrilling quick victories .

    The british title eluded him but in 1930 he became the first Liverpool boxer To win a European title. Alf died in 1959, aged 53, but the legend of his Career lives on. He was without peer as a puncher and took part in some of the Most thrilling of his, or any other era. Probably the most sensational of all was his fight with the brilliant Londoner Harry Fenn in 1929. Fenn was the proverbial mile ahead on points by the 12th round And the Hall was starting to slowly empty of disappointed fans. Howard was Down for a count of six in the 12th but summoned all his strength in the 13th To drop Fenn with a right to the chin.

    The roar from the crowd brought the crowds back in, many had been drowning Their sorrows in the local pub, but they missed one of the most dramatic victories In the long history of the Pudsey Street Stadium. Fenn was down for two more counts Before staggering to his corner to retire with just 10 seconds to go in the 13th. It was 12 months later in January 1930 that Alf Howard met the Belgium Francois Sybille for the European lightweight crown and though the ending Was unsatisfactory Howard lifted the title following the disqualification Of Sybille for a foul in the 8th round.

    It was the only occasion a contest was run in the UK under the rules of the old IBU which called for a referee and two judges. The referee was Count Volpi of Italy, who took no notice of Howards appeal In the 3rd when he went down from a swing to the body. Sybille had the edge in science But when he had Howard wincing in the 8th from another left to the body Volpi Cautioned the Belgium. The blow was again repeated shortly after and he was disqualified . Alf, who’s bother Mick was a second at the Liverpool stadium, started his pro
    Career in 1923 and twice boxed in British title eliminators. In March 1930, while reigning European champion, he met with the Londoner Harry Corbett in an eliminator but failed to find his form and after taking three counts in the 11th round he was stopped in the 12th when he has unable to defend himself.

    An even greater shock came in October 1932 when he topped the bill on the Opening night of the Liverpool Stadium – the Pudsey street stadium having Been demolished - .This was a British welterweight title eliminator with Stoker Reynolds. Unbelievably for his legion of fans Alf was down 12 times in 4 rounds, including 6 visits to the canvas in the 4th when the ref called for a halt.

    Alf decided to hang up his gloves after this shattering defeat but came back in July 1933 only to be stopped by Charlie Baxter in the 5th In 1937 he had two further contests losing them both to Charlie Parkin. However it is for the victories he is remembered and the trusty left hand with Which he hammered his opponents.
     
  9. turpinr

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    nella tarleton was the man
     
  10. HALTON BOXING

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    he was very good

    Name: Nel Tarleton
    Alias: Nelson/Nella
    Birth Name: Nelson Tarleton
    Born: 1906-01-14
    Birthplace: Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom
    Died: 1956-01-12 (Age:49)
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Hometown: Liverpool, Merseyside, United Kingdom
    Boxing Record:

    Born in Merseyside, Liverpool on the 14th of January 1906 as Nelson Tarleton, later adopting the name young Nel Tarleton, and known as “Nella” to his adoring Liverpool fans.



    Nel wasn’t an ordinary fighter, he was tall but very thin, gangly, overall Nel had never weighed over ten stone in his entire career, this was mainly due to only having only one sound lung since the age of 2 when he contracted TB. He was a keen footballer and in his early childhood he used to play out on the tough Merseyside streets just like every other young boy but he soon realised he was not strong enough to compete with the other lads, he was pushed and shoved and lacked obvious strength. He was teased about his weight and his looks only for a school bully to invite him down to the Everton Red Triangle Boxing club. It was there, and at the Gordon Institute, he learned to love the sport of boxing and was picking up prizes as early as twelve years old. He reached the finals of the Liverpool boy’s championships at three different weights; 6 st 5 lb, 7 st 5 lb and 7 st 12 lb. Nel won the two out of the three only being denied the 7 st 12 lb championship because his best friend was fighting in the opposite corner, so he refused to fight.
    Although successful as an amateur he did so only with the grudging consent of his parents. He was so wary of the opposition from his family to him turning professional that he slipped away to make his first paid debut, In secret, in Birmingham using the assumed name of Nat Nelson . There was little hint of future ring glory when he was outscored over 10 rounds by Tom “Kid” Fitzpatrick, and worse from a personal point of view for Nel when the following day a report and picture of his debut appeared in the local newspaper.
    However Nel managed to convince his parents he could make a go at being a professional fighter and made his local debut at the Liverpool Pudsey Street Stadium at age twenty against George Sankey on the 14th of January 1926, Nel’s 20th birthday, for a scheduled 10 rounder. He won on points displaying the technical ability and boxing skill he had perfected in the gym. It was some 19 years later when , after defeating Al Philips on 23 February 1945, he was to hang up his gloves.
    During those years Nel packed in enough fighting in Britain, Australia and America to fill a book. It took 68 contests before he was to have his first title shot – he was to have some 10 British title fights and 2 for the world championship, he fought his great friend Dom Volante on four occasions ( winning three ) and when aged 40 was set to the World Champion Willie Pep and would have but for Pep suffering a broken leg in a plane crash.
    Nel gained his first title when he defeated his friend Dom Volante on points in a fifteen rounder at Breck Park on 26 July 1928 for the vacant Northern Area featherweight title in front of a 16,000 crowd.
    By 1929 Nel was well established and like many men of his day America beckoned. Nel had eight bouts in just under 12 months, beating Archie Bell, Jackie Cohen, Pinkie Silverberg, Frankie Marchesi and Mickey Greb, drawing with Jimmy Slavin and losing to Al Ridgeway and Joe Scalfaro.
    When he returned to Britain he faced Johnny Cuthbert for the British Lonsdale belt in the Liverpool Stadium on 6th November 1930.They fought a long fifteen round fight but the bout was called a draw, eleven fights and eleven wins later for Nel he had the opportunity to take the title away from Cuthbert again and so he did with a display of undeniable skill which fans had no choice but to warm to. The fight took place at Anfield – The Liverpool football club ground- in front of a 22,000 crowd on 1st October 1931. A year later Tommy Watson took the title from him on points.
    In 1933 Nel accepted an offer to fight in Australia, beating Jimmy Kelso and drawing with Tim Morgan at Sydney, then losing to Young Klew Edwards at Melbourne. Nel returned to regain his British crown in 1934 by outpointing Watson and later that year he outpointed Dave Crowley at Wembley, to win his first Lonsdale belt outright.
    Between the Watson and Crowley bouts Nel made himself a date with the World Featherweight champion, the quick, stocky American who went by the name of Freddie Miller. Miller was a fighter based in Cincinnati he was an easy going, likable character who fooled around in the boxing ring and out of the boxing ring. He famously said to a reporter who asked about his training regime; ôI prefer to have lots little fights, that way I get paid for training. This was a typical remark you would get from Freddie.

    The fight took place at Anfield, Liverpool’s football stadium with thousands of screaming fans cheering for Nel but it wasn’t to be. He was knocked down early but he regained his composure only to lose the fifteen rounder on 20th September 1934 . nel always maintained he won despite the points decision going against him. Miller had asked for £2000 for his defence, which seemed beyond the reach of Stadium promoter Johnny Best. Nel however offered to fight for nothing just to get his chance. Over 30,000 fans flocked to Anfield to witness the contest and did so again just nine months later when the return took place at the Stanley Greyhound Track in June 1935.
    This was to be one of the biggest fights in Liverpool’s history. Everyone expected Nel to beat Miller this time round because that’s what Nel did, he was never beaten twice, he used to study his opponent and pick out there weaknesses, he had a great knowledge of the sport and he had always put his plan into action with great precision. The fans were soon to realise that maybe Nel has had his day, he was knocked down within the first round. However as always Nel fought his way back, learning through his own errors, he was always one step ahead but he needed two to beat Miller, unfortunately Miller had his number. It was far from clear cut many sat on the fence because it literally was too close to call, the fans were outraged when Miller was announced as the winner and bottles and turf were thrown into the ring. Nel’s push for the big time just wasn’t strong enough but he still had his British title.

    Apart from Miller Nel had beaten virtually everyone he had come up against and in may 1936 he put the first notch on a second Lonsdale belt when he Manchester’s Johnny King. Some five weeks later, after celebrating the birth of twins, Nel dropped his title on the 24th of September 1936 when Johnny McCrory, a Scottish fighter came down to Liverpool to take his British Lonsdale belt away from him.
    On this day after the fight Nel announced his retirement or so we thought. Nel came back from retirement in 1937 just four months after saying he would retire, he then won two more fights but disaster stuck, Nel had a nasty road incident he shattered his knee cap and was told he never would fight again. Did this stop Nel from boxing again ??? Of course not, he was out of the ring for eighteen months.
    He returned with tremendous winning streak that took in Arnold Lagrand, “Nipper” Fred Morris, Josef Preys, Billy Charlton and Spider Kelly.He later won back his British Lonsdale belt from Johnny Cuswick on New Years day 1940 – one of the few British title fights to be held during the war., again over fifteen long fought rounds. He always wanted a second British Lonsdale belt he said one for each of the twins and he secured it five years later against Al Phillips in Manchester on the 23rd of February 1945, Nel was 39 years old, against a much younger opponent who had a fiery reputation. Nel boxed rings round the young Al after an early scare to another fifteen round points win. As you can gather by now this type of result became highly associated with Nel.

    He was never seen in a boxing ring again.

    Nel showed sheer class throughout his career, he was unorthodox, tall, gangly, thin everything you wouldn’t expect a boxer to be but he showed every one that in a time where boxing was all about displaying heart, aggression and that killer instinct there was room for skill. People forget that boxing is an art and most definitely Nel was an artist. Nel’s sister Lily said at the end of his career there were more marks on his back than on his face this was referring to his style and the way he used the ropes to launch attacks and dictate his opponent.

    After boxing Nel was always fighting a battle with his health, he later died just short of his fiftieth birthday in 1956.
     
  11. HALTON BOXING

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    liverpool has produced loads of good boxers over the years more names like, ronnie clayton, gus foran from the 40s and 50s
     
  12. turpinr

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    i've heard of both but wasn't ronnie clayton from blackpool ??
     
  13. HALTON BOXING

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    yes mate your right

    Although born in Blackpool in 1923 Ronnie Clayton was one of the most popular boxers on Merseyside during the 1940’2 and 50’s.
     
  14. HALTON BOXING

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    turpinr i had to get the history book out there ha ha im still studying the history ha ha
     
  15. wrimc

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    Would love to see a scouser fighting for a world title again there were a few in the 90s Hoko Holligan Wenton but there hasnt been one for over a decade now lets hope some of the current crop can do something on the world scene.