Lee vs Duddy March 12th

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Big Dunk, Jan 8, 2011.


  1. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If I didn't know any better I'd say you were extremely biased, mate!!
     
  2. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I think Lee's gonna win the decison here, cant see him stopping Duddy. But Lee would be best advised to stay away from Martinez, he'd get completely outclassed by him. A fight with a past best Duddy(who wasnt that good to begin with) does not appropriately prepare you for a fight against the best fighter in the division. Getting fights vs opponents like Rubio would set him up nicely to fight guys he can actually beat like Sturm and Sylvester(that's assuming he can actually beat someone like Rubio, which we're yet to see).

    Oh by the way, Lee is not a top 15 fighter, no way. Even if the division is looking a little weak.
     
  3. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Agree with allot of what you said but why shouldn't he fight Martinez if he gets offered it. Will be a career high pay day by a long long way.

    Although I think Martinez would beat Lee I do not think he would embarrass or "school" him like our friend Slap think Lee would do to British Middleweights like Macklin and Barker.

    If he is competitive with Martinez (i am thinking a Munroe vs Nishioka, Peterson vs Bradley) style loss he can take allot from it (including the payday) and come back in 2012 and push for another title shot. Plenty of fighters won world titles at the 2nd, 3rd attempts no reason why he couldn't. He doesn't have an 0 to protect.

    If Lee over the next 2 years did this you would be very happy

    Mar 2011 Win John Duddy
    July 2011 Win Loss Sergio Martinez (World Middleweight title)
    Oct 2011 Win "Journeyman"
    Dec 2011 Win Brian Vera

    Mar 2011 Win Matthew Macklin
    July 2011 Win "Sebastian Sylvester" (IBF Middlweight title)
     
  4. foolbos

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    lee will take duddy alright, don't know about him being top 15 although he's there or there abouts

    he's better then barker, while barker is a nice technical boxer he doesn't have anything special & lacks pop, lee has a bit more about him, ratings wise compare their last common opponent, baring near disastrous 10th round lee handled him much better - mr lee has t sort his stamina issues to go anywhere
     
  5. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I dont see the point in taking a Martinez fight this early. I see where you're coming from but I dont know why he would take the fight this early, there's no need. If he beats Duddy that's probably his best win, that wont prepare him for Martinez. He's still young and I'm sure he could get fights on other HBO undercards vs the likes of Rubio, David Lopez or even Ishe Smith, he'd still pick up decent paydays and be more adequately prepared for a world title.
     
  6. sportofkings

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    So he loses to Martinez in July 2011 and decides to go back in time to choose an easier fight and beats Sebastian Sylvester eh Rob?:think That sounds like a great idea.
     
  7. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Will he improve that much from the fights? Perhaps. I think Lee's team may be thinking lets cash in. He could very well lose to an Ishe Smith or Rubio
     
  8. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Well, to be honest, if he is to lose to them he has no business fighting for a world title. I think he could definitely make an improvement, particularly against Smith. He's a fighter with 'gatekeeper' status that has the style to make a difficult fight for Lee and will give us a look into Lee's ability to make adjustments, which looks non-existant.
     
  9. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Rubio, Smith, Lorezno, Lopez all these guys probably better than Bryan Vera. Vera was also a gatekeeper and had been destroyed by other prospects that haven't even gone into much.

    In truth Lee's management should have got Vera back in the ring within a year. I know Vera wanted silly money but it would have been worth it. They probably should have had a rematch clause.
     
  10. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    I see Lee winning hurting Duddy once or twice along the way and winning a competitive decision. This is a slight step up for Lee but at least its a start and hopefully he can begin to fight world class fighters from now on instead of just staying active against journeymen.
     
  11. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    agree with this. Its a step forward. His career has been going nowhere since Vera.
     
  12. moorser

    moorser Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    rob he got beat by vera ...we know
    a fight he was winnin early on then faught the wrong fight
    he should have never have lost that fight
    doesnt mean hell lose to that level again
    this duddy fight will tell us alot more than his last 9 fights
     
  13. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Well, for his sake he better of learned something from the Vera fight because if he hasnt and just assumes Vera got lucky he's really going to end up going nowhere. I'm sure Vera wouldnt be so extreme in his demands at this stage, he's just looking for a good fight at the moment.
     
  14. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    I no mate I wasn't putting a downer in him. Just pointing out his teams possible though process. Smith, Rubio, Lorenzo are tough fights why risk it when a big payday is right there. He doesnt have an 0 to protect.
     
  15. Strongback

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    I can't understand how anybody is calling this as a Lee win by way of KO.

    Have you seen Duddy fight and the punishment he has taken over the years. There is pretty much no chance Duddy is getting knocked out.


    This is a closer fight than people here are saying. Lee will need to be a lot better than his recent efforts. Duddy is not going to role over in the biggest Irish fight in years.