the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Sound pal.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    REALLY soon. I'm going to copy all them fights and send them to you.
     
  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Eddie Perkins fight is gonna need to hit the Tube pretty soon. Sounds an interesting one. I've only scarce highlights of Perkins, and he seemed like a less cultured version of the Napoles we saw against Urbina to me. Not the most substantial of footage, though.
     
  4. Il Duce

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    Koichi Wajima vs Oscar 'Shotgun' Alvarado

    The 15th Round just brutal.
    How the Japanese Referee let Wajima take uneccessary punches. in Round 15......

    'The Horror'
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    :lol:

    You might want to spell it out further for me ;)

    I got it from RB, so I'll see if it is alright with him if I send you a copy.

    From what I have seen of Perkins which is scarce highlights and now this, he is much more of a technician than Napoles, probably more Giardello than Napoles IMO.

    He looks absoloutly horrible in a few of the highlights going around though, and I mean bad.

    He looks good in the breif clips of him vs Loi.
     
  6. McGrain

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    How thoughtful!
     
  7. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now that's what I call a bold statement. I'm gonna choose not to believe it.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Alex Arthur>Pernell Whitaker
     
  9. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now that I can get behind.:thumbsup
     
  10. BlueApollo

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    Cervantes - Benitez
    147-140 Benitez
    (10-3-2)

    I couldn't find more than three rounds to give to Cervantes in this one, 8, 9, and 10, and the 8th was debatable. Sheer technical domination from the 17 year old Benitez almost exclusively using the jab, with a rare left hook thrown in off of it, and judicious flurries when his movement forced Cervantes to the ropes. Cervantes looks like he's on ice for almost half of the fight. You can barely recognize him as the guy who iced Frazer and Ortiz.

    I should be shot for mentioning this in Classic, but sometime when you have nothing better to watch, treat yourself to Mayorga rope-a-doping Michael Walker from about the fifth onward in that sh*tfest. Funny, funny stuff. He will lose to Cotto badly, but he's more rusty than shot.
     
  11. Il Duce

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    Scott LeDoux vs Marty Monroe

    I had Monroe winning 5-4-1,,,,,all '3' times I watched it.
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    It is a bold statement, maybe I was riding on a bit of a Perkins high when I typed it. I'd say he is maybe as good as technician as Napoles. Craftier I would say suits Perkins better.
     
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    Jorge Fernandez vs Isaac Logart II

    Cracking fight this on the suggestion of RB.

    I like Fernandez and have seen a few fights of his. He is a rugged pressure fighter but has surprisingly good skills as he is able to slip into range and land hard counter shots, and has good defensive skills and superb countering skills. He is a nightmare for pure boxer's as he feeds of forward momentum and it allows him to really get going. He bobs and weaves his way in and lands hard hooks and uppercuts to head and body. However, he seems to struggle when his opponents punch with him and stand their ground, he cannot get that forward momentum and normally does not tend to do much else. He is the one slugger you WANT to slug with. He gave a pure boxing Emile Griffith hell, who had to resort to slugging it out with Fernandez and just scraped two razor close wins in their first two meetings.

    It was my first look at Isaac Logart, he appears to be a very nice stand-up boxer. He employed lovely lateral movement and footwork at times, but tended to have some balance issues especially with his sometimes sloppy punching technique. He did have a nice snappy jab and picked the nice shots for his right hand, that he did not let go enough. He was also pretty quick.

    Now, these two had met before with Logart winning by a TKO in 1958. Since then Fernandez has been on a bit of a hot streak beating some top guys and only losing to Emile Griffith (twice in very controversial fights and Luis Frederico Thompson), and Fernandez is on the back of two victories over Denny Moyer and one over Ted Wright.

    Logart is slightly past his best with Don Dunphy offering the Welterweight tournament to replace Carmen Basilio as his peak time (where he lost to eventual winner Virgil Akins) but since then he hasn't fared too well, but still being a top contender.

    Logart started well in the bout, moving laterally and popping a nice educated jab, Fernandez was looking to slip inside with hard counters to the body and then work up to the head, but Logarts better mobility and fast jab was preventing that. In the second Fernandez got inside and stayed inside with superb head movement and banged away with both hands, Logart was firing back but was made to miss and look sloppy as Fernandez fired home hard counter punches.

    In the third Logart re-increased the distance between them with his left jab but he lacked the power to really keep Fernandez off (ironic as he was the first man to stop him), as he was not setting himself. Fernandez was able to land hard counters as he advanced forward, this continued in the fourth also.

    In the fifth Logart started out with some nice fast combo's but Fernandez kept the pressure up and landed the harder punches in the exchanges with his better counter-punching and he was making Logart look ragged.

    In the sixth LOgart had a good round as he sat down on his punches and kept Fernandez off, this led to some superb exchanges as both guys landed hard punches, but especially Logart.

    Disregarding his success in the last round, Logart went back on the run and began to look very tired as he tried to jab to keep Fernandez off, but Fernandez fed off the jab and used it to get inside and land his wicked body punches. This continued into the ninth where Fernandez rocked Logart with a big right sending him half-way across the ring, and followed up with some hard barrages of hooks, Logart weathered it but took a good going over.

    In the final round Logart boxed quite well behind his jab and picked lovely shots for a big right hand counter but Fernandez just would not relent and kept up the body work and pounded out the round.

    Fernandez: 2,3,4,5,7,8,9,10
    Logart : 1,6
    Total: 98-92 Fernandez (8-2)

    It was closer than scorecard told, well more competitive than it told. And really was an excellent bout.

    I really like Fernandez, even though I'm not normally a big fan of sluggers, but he has a nice style and a really interesting one.
     
  14. Doc McCoy

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    I agree this was an entertaining battle. Check out Fernandez's fights against Charley Scott & the 1st Emile Griffith fight as well for classic contests.
     
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    The first Griffith one is a corker. Really gives a young Emile hell. I had it a draw.

    I just watched the Scott fight, thanks for the recommendation, Fernandez does really well to get inside Scott's power, and takes away that left hook with his crowding and busy attack.