What heavyweights would actually make a top 100 list?

p4p?

Floyd Patterson
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Michael Spinks
Gene Tunney
Billy Conn

Currently...

Only Adamek deserves p4p consideration.

 

To be great pound-for-pound you have to not only defeat the guys your size, but defeat ones who out-weigh you significantly in the ring.
The smaller heavyweights have the best opportunities to do so.

Langford, Dempsey, Louis, Holyfield.
Those guys showed they were pound-for-pound monsters.

 

This is ridiculous and stupid. P4P means how good you are compared in comparsion to fighters that weigh the same as you.

But anyway if you want to look at it like that, how many huge ****ers did Mike Tyson bowl over?

If you carry on with the pattern the other divisions are divided by, you end up with

200lbs Heavyweight
212lbs Ever so Heavierweight
218lbs Slightly Heavierweight
226lbs Moderatley Heavierweight
235lbs Significantly Heavierweight
247lbs Beefcakeweight
260lbs Proteinshakeweight
275lbs Tankweight

 

No, it means POUND-FOR-POUND, meaning if you can fight on even terms with a fighter who has more pounds than you, then you are pound-for-pound better !
Also, obviously, with fighters your own weight you should be superior, too.

I can't believe you think it means how you compare to people who weigh the same as you. If that was the case, everyone on a P4P list would weigh the same.

Ok. now, I understand you're just kidding. The joker as always. :good

Hey, maybe Tyson is a good pick.

But the best heavyweights he beat didn't outweigh him by an awful amount.
Berbick, Thomas, Spinks were actually a little bit lighter than him. Tucker at him both weighed 221.
Smith, Ruddock, Bruno were heavier than him, and decent fighters.

 

It does mean exactly that.

 

Yeah, exactly what I said.
Not what you said.
what you said is just half of the equation.

 

I think its more than half. Ricardo Lopez P4P is a better fighter than most weight jumpers

 

Sure.
I'm not talking about weight-jumpers though. Weight-jumping is often just how good they are at manipulating their own bodyweight, either building up, or starving down. And often fighters move up because they cannot beat a particular someone at their "own" weight.

I mean guys who actually give up weight against good bigger fighters. Like Harry Greb, Jack Dempsey, Henry Armstrong, and some of the smaller heavyweights. Holyfield definitely.

 

Yeah, but the magnificient degree of Harry Greb's greatness lies largely in him beating good fighters who are bigger than him.
He's a good win for Dempsey precisely because he proved himself great pound-for-pound in the manner I explain it.
If Greb had spent his whole career beating 160 pounders, the 190 pound Dempsey would be accused of picking on a pure middlweight, and why doesn't he fight Firpo or Wills ?

I agree, it's a case of marking how good the opposition is.