Nick Diaz: “I Like Dealing With PRIDE Rules”

pride fc rules are the best imo...

 

It's hard. The opposite can be argued.

Yellow card for stalling - well get out of the stall then.

Can't elbow - then how can this be fighting.

Ring - you got to be kidding me.

 

I agree with almost all of the rules of pride. I don't agree with elbows whatsoever, considering they cut the **** out of a fighter and ruin matches. Case in point, Jon Jones and Kenny Florian. It might seem entertaining and awesome to other people, but just... no.

 

but shouldn't people learn to defend against them and get off the bottom? if you open someone up with cuts to the degree they can no longer fight then how is that different to a normal win?

personally i love some good elbows. one of my main loves of the ufc.

 

yep, I love elbows

how is NOT having elbows MORE technical.

The guy can either punch or throw elbows. offensively, you have to know more, and defensively, you have to know more.

 

Interesting, since he has never actually fought under actual pride rules.

 

I would say pride rules with no knees or kicks to a grounded opponents head unless you are on your back up-kicks to a to a opponent should also be legal even if they are technically grounded.

elbows need to go, rewarding control over damage needs to go.

yellow card system discouraged stalling, thats good.

a modified boxing ring similar to the vale tudo sort.

nicks right, pride was the closest thing to perfect, it even had the crazy pride lady.

 

Idealy elbows should be allowed BUT under the US system right now they represent alot of potential for stalling.

If someone is laying in guard keeping it close we often see the ref calling for action at which point the guy ontop will deliver some weak elbows and the ref will be satifised. That to me is not action, action in that situation is either trying to improve position or delivering potentially fight ending GnP.

Stalling by its very nature is harder to stop, when you limate the time frame of a fight you need to combat stalling, imagine boxing with 15 min fights and guys able to clinch up for a minute or more at a time without being broken up and the guy controling the clinch actually being rewarded by the judges.

Besides changing judging criteria to focus more on damage the most obvious change for me is more 5 round fights. We always hear that wrestlers are "wearing an opponant down" with ground control but in reality alot of the time its clear there infact wearing themselves down looking to win a decsion based on ground control. Guys like Bader, Sherk, Rashad has all clearly gassed late in fights recently, over 25 mins they'd either have to change tactics of risk being finished.

 

IF a fighter is stalling via running on his feet, lock a guy up in guard or controlling a guy on top THEN it can all be neutralised. Its like the clinch in boxing, its frustrating to see and its frustrating to be held but if you are actually any good you should be able to fight out of the clinch, create space when a guy is trying to smother etc

I too want to see guys consistently transitioning but I'm not 100% sure about what the solution is. I am a technical lover so even when someone is stalling, I hate it but I also blame the opponent for allowing it to happen.

 

Neither have i. And yeah his bout with Gomi was under NSAC rules. Mere technicality....

 

That's the closest thing to a compliment I've ever seen you give Nick Diaz. You'll be a fan in no time.

 

That bout got changed to a NC because Nick was on recreation drugs. Probably weed again.... O yea and **** Nick Diaz. :fire

 

Its the same old "well you should be the better wrestlter" arguement thats never been valid IMHO since it undervalues the skill involved.

Wrestling isnt some trick or tactic, its a skill that can be devolped along the same lines and striking and submissions. When you create an enviroment that favours wrestling you naturally create an enviroment that favours former wrestlers.

 

You raise good points about having to defend them, especially standing, it adds a different dynamic, but I just don't like them. They ruin fights for me. I would've much preferred to see Vera vs. Jones without that ****ing elbow. I know it didn't cut, it essentially broke Vera's face but it's really not cool imo. Cuts aren't the way for a fight to end. They're the ruiner of everything good. I just don't think they're needed.

Same with soccer kicks or hitting anyone PROPERLY on the ground (putting your hand on the ground does not constitute as safety, example being the Kim-Diaz fight), I mean jesus christ, let the dude get up. I'm a big advocate of a 10 count for a fighter hitting the deck. I think the only time a fight should go the ground is when there's a takedown or slam. I would've loved to see how many fights would've went had an opponent got the chance to recover with a 10 count.