If GSP beats Silva at MW, does he approach Fedor-status

We all know about Fedor's career, and you've repeated this point over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.Now name these Welterweights form 'other' orgs, please, educate us Morono. Im BEGGING you, tell us who 'they' are. C'mon, you've been goin on about these 'other' fighters for months now, so name them
And dont be vague homie

 

People respected Anderson Silva during his Pride days and outside his Pride days because he is genuinely a great athlete and a great fighter. However he was never even close to a P4P great in his Pride days because he had trouble with how his Japanese opponents fought. The mentality in Pride was to win through submission or through KO and not to lay on your opponent all night.

 

Look through the other orgs and look at the stylistic matchups, dont be a stooge and rely on overly biased rankings. Look at Overeem v Cain for example, Cain is ranked higher because of Zuffa but we all know that Overeem would demolish him or Machida over Gegard when Gegard would knock Machida out.

 

I doubt this would ever happen, Shogun is too dangerous, too aggressive and actually has a decent standup.

 

Fedor wasnt a p4p in his RINGS days either, it was only after he beat Nog from my recollection. How does this relate to 2011?
And name the WW's from 'other' org please, dont be vague homie

 

Ive never mentioned who I rank higher so how do you know I rate Cain over the Reem?
Now name the WW's and stop avoiding the issue

 

Meh, you've became as lame as the Zuffa Zombies, you're simply an Anti-Zuffa Zombie. Sure Overeem might have an advantage on paper but what in the world assures you Overeem would win and what do we really know about Cain Velasquez. I know he shouldn't necessarily be #1 in rankings but the guy clearly has a good chance of winning a fight against any HW in the world.

And i'm not saying he would win, but there's no way you can be sure a guy like Overeem, who has a limited MMA resume, could beat an elite level fighter like Velasquez, which would clearly have the wrestling advantage. IMO that would be an amazing fight and one i'd pay to see, but we know it ain't gonna happen.

 

This is my post in regards to the heaveyweight rankings from your Sherdog thread Morono, just so Im not being vague homie
''And I think the heavyweights are in limbo in regards to a true ranking as it stands. Fedor lost, Overeem's untested in MMA at the weight, Werdum's relatively one dimensional, Barnett has been busted for roids and hasnt had the best comp since leaving Pride, JDS and Cain have potential but are untested themselves. But to answer your question, no I think the winner of the SF tourney will be rightly regarded as the number one heavy
But I'll reserve my judgement until at least the 1st round of the SF tourney are done and Cain & JDS fight with regards to heavyweight rankings''

So, name the WW's GSP should be fighting.

 

Let's analyse these kickboxers and Olympic level grapplers and UFC champions is it, since Im still here waiting for you too name these Welterweights in 'other' orgs.

Arlovski - Former UFC champ. Good stand up, decent on the ground, God awful chin. Was Knocked out 4 times before facing Fedor
Tim Sylvia - Former UFC Champ. Mosty know for a decent jab and boring saftey 1st style Has 6 loses, only 1 of them a decision. To 45 year old Randy Couture.
Mark Coleman - Used his wrestling to great effect in the no holds barred days of MMA, former UFC heaveyweight Champ and Pride GP winner. Great achievements no doubt. But has limited stand up skills (Im being kind) and no submissions experience. One dimensional and suspected substance abuser.
Choi Hoi-Man - K1 level kickboxer. Has zero ground skills and has achieved NOTHING in MMA.
Mark Hunt - K1 champ, so striking is not to be scoffed at. Beat both Cro Cop and Wandelei Silva. Not too shabby, but not a great record in MMA. 5 wins and 7 loses.
Semmy Schilt - Excellent K1 record no arguing with that. But in terms of being an MMA fighter has achieved relatively little. Subbed by both Barnett and Nog, Fedor only got the decision.
Naoyga Ogawa - Olympic Silver medalist, great achievement. But has achieved NOTHING in MMA.

Please understand, Im not Fedor bashing, he beat these all by being a superior Mixed Martial Artist, and is the GOAT. Now this reflects the state of MMA at the time, lots more cross over fights in the spirit of the 1st UFC and Pride events, best from other styles facing each other and all that jazz.
But your bashing GSP for not fighting these types of opponents. Fact is he's not fighting one dimensional fighters, strikers with a weakness on the ground or vice versa. He's fighting MIXED MARTIAL ARTISTS, well rounded fighters who are competent on the ground and striking departments. So how can you bash him for that? Forgetting your anti UFC biased for a moment, do you think GSP would have trouble taking a K1 level striker to the ground and getting the decision like Fedor did with Semmy? Especially considered when he outwrestle Fitch, Kos and ATG Matt Hughes, who have more experience on the ground than any K1 striker could ever get. I bet you'd bash GSP if he ever fought a k1 level striker and took it too the ground, when that's exactly what Fedor did to Schilt and Choi. And I guess that GSP and his opponents were probably inspired to become better all round fighters because of Fedor and his ilk probably escapes you. Now you can harp on about his undefeated streak, but for me this is Emelianekos greatest achievement.
So Ive answered you criticism of GSP in an honest way and made my points clearly and concisely. You made not agree with them, but the fact is they are there to be considered.
Now name these Welterweights from 'other' org please.

 

You completely missed the point; he didn't go from having trouble in Pride to the UFC, he went on a ****ing rampage in other orgs like Cage Rage before he came to the UFC, as well as moving to the more realistic weight class of 185.

 

So no, you can't name these Welterweights that GSP should fight that are better than the ones he has, can you?

Idiot.

Cain is ranked higher because he has legit wins as a HW, and there is absolutely no guarantee Overeem would win that fight, I certainly would not bet on him.

 

So who are these legit HW that Cain far fought to get him above Fedor and Werdum? Overeem is far more dangerous and skilled than Cain as well.

 

The top org who allowed other fighters from other orgs to fight was Pride and we all know how well that went for Anderson. Anderson also lost in Vale Tudo as well as Rumble on the Rock.....however he remains undefeated in the UFC. Anderson is a good fighter and had a good record, however he made his name in the UFC where he didnt get a wider cross section of fighters from all around the world.

 

If a guy is super strong in one area then he could dominate if he kept it to that area. You could have an average all round MMA fighter get knocked out by a K-1 level MMA fighter or a grappling wiz with average standup submit someone like fedor. We know that Fedor has fought top level kickboxers, top level grapplers and also all round MMA fighters..............GSP has not fought top level kickboxers who would potentially dominate and win just standing up.