I have never ran across a more delusional bunch of people in my life. I am not privy to British media so I do wonder if they are brainwashed by the lies put out by Booth, Bunce and Haye. #1 Haye is not a Heavyweight Champion. The belt he holds belongs to Wladimir already by beating the WBA champion at the time Ruslan Chagaev. But they don't understand that. It is so logical but they cannot reason it within their minds. #2 When Haye was delaying his fight with EITHER Klitschko ( even faking an injury to get out of a Wladimir fight leaving him holding the bag) it was being praised by Haye fans as being genius and Haye being a "smart businessman". Haye was in the "drivers seat" now they said. But now Wladimir is "ducking" Haye because he wants to fight Chisora to stay sharp for the July 2nd date. Haye PULLED out of the date, not Wladimir but he is "ducking"???? #3 They don't realize that Haye is just angry that he has to fight HIS mandatory in between and is afraid he will be beaten. They can BOTH fight and have plenty of time to make this fight for late summer. He is NOT in the drivers seat as he and his fans thought and they are PISSED. Wladimir is The Heavyweight Champion of the World and is in the drivers seat. Why is he not the genius now?? He has left Haye with having to fight a real contender if he wants his "retirement money" and may lose to someone NOT named Klitschko. #4 Haye plans to retire very soon having fought NOONE but over the hill has beens and AUDLEY HARRISON but claims Wladimir has fought the "worst" contenders. How is someone planning to retire very soon at 31 even a considered a relevent player in the division?:huh #5 Haye has lied to them. Stolen their money with bogus fights. And laughs at them while doing so. He basically tells them to bend over and like it..........and they like it.:yikes Last of all, Haye is a complete joke outside of the UK and will retire with a legacy of a big mouthed fraud. But yet......Haye fans don't beleive it.:smh
Probably so.........but having to listen to rubbish from them for years has put me in dickhead mode for this thread. But you nailed it. I am sick of the nationalistic crap though.:deal
im not a haye fan AT ALL. but i am defending him on the current wlad/haye situation 1. I think youll find haye IS a heavyweight champion! by definition. He holds the wba belt so he is A heavyweight champion. he isnt THE heavyweight champion if thats what you meant. That title is still wladimirs 2. I was against haye pulling out the first time against wlad. But how the hell can you NOT see why he did?!?! He would have had to fight FOR FREE! FFS if YOU were in hayes shoes would YOU have fought wlad for free?!?!? its not him being a smart business man its him being a smart PERSOn and using common sense and doing what 100% of the ppl on esb would also have done 3. If wlad was so dam serious about haye (as he keeps saying to the media) why the **** is he not fighting haye?! why is he not giving the public the fight they want to see? why insist on fighting chisora, knowing that if he fights chisora then the july 2nd date they had aside is IMPOSSIBLE! you delusional wlad fans make me laugh on this matter. its really quite simple. Wlad fighting chisora means haye HAS to fight chagaev. Haye cannot fight chagaev until may earliest, meaning a july 2nd date is IMPOSSIBLE for haye vs wlad. So in essence, wlad fighting chisora means the july 2nd date is impossible! And dont give me the ring rust crap. He already admitted its not to do with that. its coz he doesnt trust haye. 4. Haye will never go down as a great. He wont even go down as a GOOD heavyweight champ if he retires without facing the klits. but its become clear that thats not what haye wants in the first place. he doesnt care about going down as a great. Hes clearly in this for the money, thats why he took the **** poor audley fight! 5. not quite sure who your referring to as they? On your final point, i agree. haye IS a joke outside the UK, and WILL retire it seems as a loud mouthed joke! He talked **** to the champ wlad, provoked them non stop, pissed them off and in return took **** poor fights (such as audley harrison). he was rightly ridiculed for the last 2 years! (as i said im not a haye fan at all) Im just annoyed NOW at wladimir. Haye agreed to everything in the contract. EVERYTHING! So saying haye bitched out is bollux. if he wanted to ***** out he could have been anal about the uk ppv money again like last time! But he didnt. he agreed to everything. yet wladimir killed the fight by wanting chisora. WHy? because he clearly just wants to **** haye off. Can i blame him? Probably not. but it makes him just as bad as haye. HE is the reason the fight isnt taking place NOW, just like haye was the reason it didnt take place before. thats how IM seeing it as an UNBIASED poster.
There not scared like wlad is, and his fans are...... You only have to look to see how pleased the wlad nut huggers are that haye vs wlad is not happening.................................. Pure Fear
Some of us aren't exactly Haye fans. We criticize his actions like anyone else; however, we recognize Wlad for the fraud he is and are tired of hearing how he would crush every single ATG despite being floored over 11 times by bums and crawling on the floor like a ***** without getting hit the second time he was knocked down by Sanders. In conclusion, we wanna see Wlad get knocked out again, so the true delusional fanatics, IE Wlad fans, will be brought back down to earth and realize he has significant weaknesses which haven't been exploited because his terrible opposition.
somebody posted on another thread yesterday that they rank haye above holyfield at cruiser and heavy i thought i see was seeing things im still in shock it was worse then when scott gilfoid compared dirrell ward to ali liston
exactly :good the ones defending haye are made mostly of the boxing FANS who post on every boxing thread regarding a lot of boxers. the main ones riding wlad's dicks are people who have WLAD as their avatar and do nothing but talk about wladimir klitschko
*Translation* "I hate Waldimir because he's everything i'm not, he's got a lotta money, great looking women, and i'm not nothing!!!":fire