Scoring Eubank-Collins I

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  1. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Round 1: 10 – 9 Eubank
    Collins was aggressive but inaccurate, Eubank was accurate but inactive. The round was uneventful and tight, but on the strength of defensive ability and offensive accuracy, I will give it to Eubank.


    Round 2: 9 – 10 Collins
    Eubank is robbed of a knockdown early in the round. What should have been a 10-8 round for Eubank becomes 9-10 for Collins due to his aggression and Eubank's complacency.


    Round 3: 10 – 9 Eubank
    Eubank with the sharpshooting, that right hand! Collins couldn't hit him with a handful of rice.


    Round 4: 10 – 9 Eubank
    Eubank once again proves to be too elusive for Collins, making Collins miss so much he looks amateurish.


    Round 5: 9 – 10 Collins
    Collins straightens his punches in this round and connects with good combinations to win it.


    Round 6: 10 – 9 Eubank
    Collins couldn't hit Eubank if his life depended on it in this round. Eubank has so many subtle qualities that stand out to me as well as his position, range and defense.


    Round 7: 9 – 10 Collins
    Collins rallies at the end of the round with some straight combinations that landed and turned another even round into his favor.


    Round 8: 9 – 10 Collins
    Collins found success once again using straighter punches, and managed to send Eubank to the canvas near the end of the round with a body shot. However, the shot did not actually hurt Eubank, rather he went down due to a loss of balance - being caught square. Eubank got up quickly and came thundering back in usual fashion. He quickly shook Collins up, who was holding on by the end of the round. Eubank, in my mind, saved himself from a 2 point round with his comeback, given the trivial nature of the knockdown.


    Round 9: 9 – 10 Collins
    Collins did enough good work in the first 2 minutes to earn him the round. He actually countered Eubank pretty well in this round.


    Round 10: 10 – 8 Eubank
    The round begins with Eubank dropping Collins with a huge sneaky right. Steve is hurt, and clearly there for the taking. For whatever reason, though, Eubank acts as if he's in some sort of a modelling contest for the whole remainer of the round instead of going in for the kill.


    Round 11: 10 – 9 Eubank
    Eubank took Collins to school in this round.


    Round 12: 10 – 9 Eubank
    Eubank fought to win the round, Collins fought to keep Eubank off him.




    Final Score: (115 – 112) Eubank
     
    atberry, Jan 12, 2011
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  2. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    I thought you would have Eubank winning. Don't ask me how. I just knew :smooch
     
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  3. lirva

    lirva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I also had Eubank winning. He had Collins for the taking in the 10th round but I think he got flashes of the Watson fight in his mind at the time.
     
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  4. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    116-112?


    theres jobs judging in germany and canada if you are looking
     
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  5. slapbangwhallop

    slapbangwhallop The Sweet Scientist Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I thought Eubank won it, but at this stage who gives a ****?
     
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  7. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not at all,Eubank kept saying 'i got a draw'..,and even barry hearn was shaking his head at Eubank,he knew Collins had won it,Sky Sports Commentators had Collins winning by a point,it was a close fight,could have gone either way but Collins was busier..
     
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  8. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That running commentary is for the birds. Blatant nuthuggery.
     
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  9. leo_messi

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    who's gives a ****.

    It was nearly 17 yrs ago at this stage.

    Collins won the fight, end of ****ing story....
     
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  10. misticmonk

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    I'm not even sure it's nuthugging. He's making excuses. Eubank was one of the finest middle/super middle weights of his generation, certainly the biggest boxoffice this side of the Atlantic. Watson may very well have had a lasting effect, but all his excuses are a critism of Eubank and are undeserved imo.
     
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  11. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Excuses?

    Did Eubank not produce a clear KD in R2, only for it not to be declared?

    Did Collins not get lucky with his declared KD in R8, where Eubank was just caught square-on (with a shot that seemed more of a push to the stomach than anything)?
     
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  12. Big Ears

    Big Ears Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was touch and go, I'd have probably called it a knockdown tbh, but it wasn't given and the fight can only be scored accordingly.

    It's not luck, it was poor footwork by Eubank to be caught in that position and it was a legitimate bodyshot that put him down. Just because it was a balance related knockdown rather, that Eubank being hurt from the bodyshot doesn't mean it's not genuine, and it certainly wasn't a push.

    BTW your scorecard should actually read 115-112 Eubank if you tally it up correctly, not that it really matters. As others have said it's a long time ago and it was a close fight. I've watched both fights a fair few times and while I can't remember my scorecard from either I had Collins winning the first narrowly and winning the 2nd much clearer.
     
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  13. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    eubank won the first by getting 4 points from the last 3.

    Second fight was a near shutout for Collins.
     
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  14. ApatheticLeader

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    I'll score it later.
     
    ApatheticLeader, Jan 14, 2011
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  15. willmc83

    willmc83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    HA HA HA, once again the naysayers and doubters re-visit Collins - Eubank. They just can't accept that Collins was a better fighter. Expect the Benn thread to start next week and who knows what will follow after that....

    "....Apparently Pyatt could have finished Collins off but he had a flashback to when he hit a kid in school and he was never the same after hurting that kid so he just let Collins win the fight...."

    :lol:
     
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