Wlad acts as if Chisora is a mandatory defense

****ing hell - I despair! You choose to ignore the facts of the case again and make up more stuff. You clearly haven't even understood the most basic factors.

I'll try one more time to break it down for you.

April 30th is a no go. Sky NEVER offered this date as they have already got a Khan PPV in April and they do not do two PPVs in one month. This is REALLY REALLY common knowledge.

So that's ONE thing you've made up.

Come on, I posted you an actual quote from an ESPN article that addressed this but you clearly haven't got it.

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Right, July 2nd is the only date the TV networks could do that worked with a GERMAN VENUE. The fight could have been held in May or June at a UK venue, but Wlad insisted on a German venue, so it put back the fight until July. I don't know why he said he would fight Haye anywhere, only to insist that the fight be in Germany. You have any opinions on that?

I don't know about a September fight, but I know that Wlad is know already supposed to be negotiating with Adamek for a fight around that time - so it doesn't seem likely.

And please explain how Haye was trying to take advantage of an 'inactive' Wlad when:

- He was willing to fight in April 30th, but Sky already has a Khan PPB booked.
-He was willing to fight in May, just a week or two after Wlad is due to fight Chisora - only for Wlad to insist the fight must be in Germany and therefore cannot happen until July 2nd.

It was only Sky already having a Khan PPV booked and Wlad going back on his word about fighting Haye anywhere that meant that fight had to be in July. So please explain how that is David Haye trying to make Wlad inactive. I look forward to your answer

 

if Haye can wobble the giant valuev and make him do the funny dance then he can rock wlad easily.

haye has the handspeed,the footspeed-good movement,and explosiveness to land counters that wlad cant do anything about.

he looks like he cant defend,but he is harder to hit than most people think,how many big punches has he taken in the last 3 years?.not many.

and heavies throw so slow,he can see all their punches coming a mile away,especially compared to cruiser punching speed.

i admit,of course klitschko have killer power,heavy numbing power.

but i cant see them able to land any clean hard shots on haye,they look fast and co ordinated vs poor opponents,not vs haye.

and also,think about how klitshcko have to punch down on haye,thats easier for haye to avoid punches that way than someone punching at the same height.

if haye can land bombs on 7 foot ish valuev,he can do it to wlad.

vitali will fight haye,but wlad,i cant see it ever happening.

 

The only thing Haye could hope for was inactivity by Wlad.
8 weeks between 30 April and 2 July...is a reasonable time between fights.

Of course it's a warm up fight....but there is no one left but two English men...and Valuof who needs a warm up fight himself, after surgery.
So Sept should then be Valuof.

 

khan and haye are mates,khan should for good of boxing and his friend,give his date up and swap it with hayes may/june date.

khans tune up homecoming fight can wait surely?.and it suits roach's training schedule better too.

then haye v wlad could have been april.

khan in may/june.

 

I don't think so, I think Khan is set on fighting April - June/July - then December. He announced this in the ring straight after the Maidana fight so it must've been booked in for ages

 

both sky and trl can be blamed. bad luck on timing of fights can be blamed.

even khan,as hayes fellow countryman and friend,not able to swap his date and let haye fight wlad?,without wlads rustyness excuse being used.

haye could fight khans date,khan fight may/june on haye's dates for sky.

wlad woudltn fight in uk,he said he would before though?.wht changed!. and now he will fight in poland with adamek,but not haye in uk?.come on!.

also,if you read espn i think,or scene,u see boente saying he would have chosen showtime over hbo,yet again contradicting himself over wanting to get most money everywhere!

he said before he would never have klits on hbo ever again aswell,he would go to showtime for less!. just cuz of povetkin little pull out,cuz he is bitter.

 

Why do people think that Haye is a big deal? He proves that he can run away from Valuev for 12 rounds and he proves that he can KO Ruiz ... what else?

Haye is nothing special. What if Klitschko beats Haye easily?

Would you say "Wow, Klitschko is great"? No, you would see Haye as another bump. Why? Because Haye is not a great Champion. :thumbsup

Therefore Wlad need not to look after Hayes opinion. If Haye wants to fight on July 2, he is pleased to do it. But he isnt allowed to dictate Wlad how to us his time before the fight.

 

april 30 and july 2nd are NOT reasonable times between fights.and the to add september after the july fight,blatent duck.

very possible injuries cuts can happen,that stops either fight going ahead possibly.

chisora will get no luck,he will get mad,hes bitten ears in a fight before,he may elbow,thumb eyes,headbut,anything to get at wlad.

that makes july 2nd fight impossible with recovery from injuries,and for proper time to fight such ahuge money fight.

and to have short promo tour,that earns less money than long tour,wlad wont risk earning less money.

he wont risk injury,he wont risk over training or under preparing,under sparring for haye!.

 

Khan has said he's fighting April/ July-August / December this year, so that's not possible as it would knock his schedule off

 

why do people make out klitschkos are a big deal.

they stunk out the joint in america,no one in uk likes them.

the only big fanbase they have is germany,where people dont have to pay to watch them on tv,and probably get cheap tickets to watch them fight aswell.

klitschkos have power and size,they know how to use them.thats it.

they are not exciting,they drag fights out,they let bums last more than half a fight with them.

they do not care about exciting fans.

they do not have guts to go for knockouts,to really let thier hands go and put together many skilfull combinations.

wlad actually could be so much better and more exciting if he wasnt so weak mentally,if he wasnt so weak chinned,and if both had better stamina where they could fight for full rounds at good pace,which they can not do.

 

It is pathetic the way people are saying it is Sky's fault that this fight ain't happening. Blame Wlad for picking Chisora when all he had to do was pick Haye. The moron already has Adamek lined up to fight him. Oh, he is inactive, oh, TV network conflicts, what a bunch of b.s. The biggest threat to him in the heavyweight division, and, he continues to fight guys who have no chance against him. Hilarious.

 

fair play.

only thing i would say,if possible,is one or both sides to fight on channels that allow the fight to happen when the fighters want it.

the fighters dont work for the networks,the networks work for and need the fighters.

 

Well if Haye hadn't of fought an absolute joke of a fight against Audley Harrison ans instead fought his mandatory then he wouldn't be in this predicament

 

I think you're not thinking clearly. The may or june thing, is it avaiable by both sky sports and rtl? It has to be avalable by both networks. Wlad manager said that may and june dates were not avaiable for rtl. So the only way BOTH networks can work out a deal is july 2nd. I just read 2 days ago that Wlad still hopes change his mind and that his fight vs Haye will still happen on july 2nd cause he feels he'll be ready by then.

 

:rofl

Unreal. Actually unreal. You just ignore all the actual facts to fit your own agenda. Forget it.