Just finished watching the second fight he had with de la hoya. It is quite evident who the stronger fighter was in that fight as oppossed as their first one. In the first fight ODH had the wrong game plan but appeared to be the stronger of the 2. In the second fight he had the right game plan but looked to be far the weaker of the 2. No doubt in my mind that if de la hoya would have gone into the second fight with the same strategy as he did in their first fight he would have gotten knocked out. I was hearing Jack Mosely telling shane is the later rounds "he is feeling it now, we got him now, you can be the first to knock him out. Then he says come on he is feeling it, shane you can knocked him out" This is clear evidence that he jack was reminding shane that he was on epo and would not tire and he had an advantage. I saw his fights with vargas and margarito as well and i belive he juiced for those fights as well. The only fighters i belive he did not juice for are the black fighters because his trainer, a black power muslim would no let him, nor would his father. It appears that their supplier did not want black fighters juicing up against other black fighters. This is just a rumor a heard from the community coming from one of their close brthers in Allah. but putting things in perspective, i believe he cheated before oscar and after oscar. The thing that strikes me is that he gets a pass!!! This ****er knows he is on something and is hitting another human being possibliy killing him or inflicting irreparable damage. No respect for this piece of ****!!!
The only reason Oscar fought the first fight the way he did was because he wanted to regain some of his machismo and the respect he lost by running from Trinidad in the final rounds of their fight. That is he why he chose a smaller opponent in Mosley, figuring he'd be too strong for him and would look spectacular in stopping another pound for pound fighter. It backfired when Mosley turned out to be just as strong and was was able to outhustle him at close quarters being faster than him on the inside. That was a once off. Oscar was never going to fight another elite opponent as recklessly as he did that night at the Staples Center. That being said, I agree, it was clear Mosley was on someting being that much stronger than Oscar in the final rounds of their rematch, even given Oscar's stamina problems. Anyway, I believe Mosley started juicing when he went up to 154. That's when he started looking a slower and more plodding type of fighter. At 147 he was still very fast, and not looking that much different than the lightweight Mosley, leading up to the Forrest fights. Maybe those losses forced him to reassess his training and fight preparation and that led him to steroids to bulk up (which he wouldn't have been unfamiliar with having done some weightlifting) for the Winky fights, and then to Conte and PEDs.
lol alot of you guys have trouble with fluency in english horrible grammar, spelling, punctuation etc gtfoh
cmon people, get real. you really naive to believe a fighters own trainer doesn't know something is going on lol?
I believe strongly 75% of athletes (excluding a few sports entirely, boxing certainly not one of them) are/have been significantly on PED's. If that answers you're question.
Yea well I posted this from my cell phone so grammar kind of goes out the window. Also im in the la area and have been in the fitness industry my entire life basically. Fist off let me tell you that the suppliers for epo in the usa are a handful. I have juice all of my adult life for looks and not performance. I have trained boxing and mma but never competed pro or anything like that. What im telling you guys most of the legit juice comes from a handful of guys and down the latter aftetwards. We are a very small community when you are well connected and you begin to know certain **** certain atheletes and even celebirties use. Stop the kids stuff and listen. Hopefully it will all come out in the next few months. Mosely will juice for pac and will probably win. Dont sleep on the cheater guys.
Mr. bigdog, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
This is bullet proof evidence you're right, trainers never urge fighters to go for the KO. Maybe you should think of becoming a lawyer
I dought he only did it to beat non black fighters. You just sound like a Pac fan who dislikes Mayweather and is hoping Pac does a better job. I think a lot of these guys take steroids, Calzaghe and Marquez are just two top fighters of the last 5 years I can think of off the top of my head who I'm 99% sure haven't.