Emile Griffith vs. Chris Eubank

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Didn't Spinks trainer say he wasn't scared but took the wrong gameplan of going toe-toe instead of boxing? Either way I see someone like Lennox/Foreman/Liston jumping on him in a similar way

    I think this was a great win and performance by Carter, who I had well ahead going into the 12th against Giardiallo (didnt get to see the full 15rounds) so he perhaps deserved the nod, an underrated fighter
     
  2. WhataRock

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    Fluke implies luck...never really liked it being applied to boxing though I'm sure I've used it before.

    Though in 20 rematches Carter wouldnt repeat that feat..neither would Nunn I feel.

    Just one of things, can't take anything away from Carter but Emile certainly redeemed and proved himself in the durability department.
     
  3. McGrain

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    Floyd Patterson
    Antonio Avelar ;)
    Ken Norton
    Roger Mayweather
    Michael Moorer, would you count him?
     
  4. bodhi

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    Oh, come on, it was so obvious he was scared sh*tless. Tyson would have blown him out no matter what gameplan. Yeah Lennox, Foreman, Liston could jump him in a similar way but I don´t think they would get him out the same way. The only other one I can see doing so is Dempsey.

    It was a good performance by Carter. His best win but I don´t think he would repeat this feat ever again. That´s why I call it a fluke.



    Nah, it´s just something the possibility of repeating is so narrow it´s nearly not existent.
     
  5. McGrain

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    Calling a win that wouldn't be repeated exactly in a rematch is pretty silly, but OK.


    Throwing a perfect punch, I actually think in reaction to something an opponent is doing, can't be dismmissed as luck. Maybe this is a lost in translation thing, fluke means luck, a stroke of luck.
     
  6. McGrain

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    Ah, it is a lost in translation thing!

    –noun
    1.
    an accidental advantage; stroke of good luck: He got the job by a fluke.
    2.
    an accident or chance happening.
    3.
    an accidentally successful stroke
     
  7. bodhi

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    I stand corrected then. Thanks. :good
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    I don't see why the win wouldn't have been replicated anyway, Carter was timing Griffith and hitting him clean time and again while rolling Griffiths shots. It seems Carter went down hill after his title fight but before that he was in pretty hot form before and he has a case for beating Giardello from what I've seen of the fight

    To beat Carter Griffith would have to fight a very smart backfoot potshotting spoiling type of fight. Obviously Griffith beat Tiger but for 1 thing I don't think Tiger hits as hard or is as strong. I suppose you could argue it was a learning fight and Griffith would learn not to get too cocky with MWs again
     
  9. bodhi

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    :huh
     
  10. WhataRock

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    For the most part Griffith was excellent with that strategy though PP...the minimalist, spoiling thing was really his bread and butter towards the end of his peak.

    Carter was a beast and could have bested Emile again but not like that. You don't get much more dominate, hard to replicate against a guy like Griffith.
     
  11. red cobra

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    I think we have a fundamental problem right here.:think
    If ever an issue was settled h2h this one was.