Who is greater? George Foreman or Mike Tyson

Golota quit while doing ok shouldn't undermine Tyson's win. Although it should Golota's decision to quit was likely prompted when Tyson hit him so hard he broke his cheekbone.

Can't have it both ways. Tyson is losing a fight and he comes back and stops Botha with 1 punch and instead being credited with coming from behind and losing a fight he gets slammed for not dominating the fight.

Savarese may be a "joke" but he was a ranked fighter and you really examine things of George Foreman's 76 career wins, you couldnt come up with 10 names on his win column better than Savarese.

Foreman had a few great wins in a resume that ultimately lacked depth.
As champion he never maintained the dominance that Tyson had.

 

Spinks was undefeated former LHW Champ who moved up to take the lineal title from Larry Holmes the undefeated champion who I should add is greater than Tyson and Foreman.

Now he may have been a Light Heavyweight but guess what:

So was Gene Tunney, and look at how Jack Dempsey handled him.
So was Billy Conn, and it took Joe Louis a little more than 91 seconds to get the job done.
So was Ezzard Charles and Rocky Marciano had his hands full needing a KO to win in order to avoid being stopped on Cuts.
So was Michael Moorer who beat Evander Holyfield in his prime and by the way is the only reason why this thread is even a debatable topic. Take away the Moorer win George's 2nd career has no definition and everything would fall back on his 1st career which would simply be inadequate compared to Mike.

Tyson has the dominance, the depth, and the consistency as champion to be ranked higher.





BTW Why does a 24 year old Foreman get a pass for losing to a 32 year old Muhammad Ali. But a 30 year old Tyson gets flack for losing to a 34 year old Evander Holyfield?

 

Tyson.

 

Foreman.

 

Tyson.

 

Really hard to pick a clear favorite here. One advantage Tyson has is that he had greatness all to himself in his prime. He was the undisputed best, whereas Big George's thunder was stolen by Ali. One is a victim of his time, while the other is a benefactor of his.

 

George Foreman

George Chuvalo
Pierre Coetzer
Joe Frazier x2
Gregorio Peralta x2
Ron Lyle
Boone Kirkman
Ken Norton
Michael Moorer
Gerry Cooney



Mike Tyson

Michael Spinks
Frank Bruno
Andrew Golota
Trevor Berbick
Larry Holmes
James Smith
Donovan Ruddock x2
Pinklon Thomas
Tony Tubbs
Tony Tucker


Not much difference really.

 

Foreman might have beaten Frazier in two, but Tyson beat Frazier in one. I can't believe everyone is just glossing over this fact.

 

Tyson of '91 was a better fighter than '90 headhunter Tyson, especially compared to the lethargic lump who fought Buster.

Golota doing ok?
Tyson floored him in the first & shattered his cheekbone in the second, no wonder that headcase quit.

Tyson was badly past-prime, sluggish & had almost 2 years of ring rust when he fought Botha, but he overcame adversity, coming from behind to annihilate Botha with one atomic bomb.
That crappy version of Tyson beat a fitter, younger version of Botha than Lewis did anyway.

Savarese was a decent fighter, on par with some of Lennox's opposition who you wouldn't consider "jokes".

 

Tyson. No ****ing doubt about it.

 

Wait until Foreman Gancho sees this. ****ing hell.

 

Who's Foreman Gancho?

 

"Can't have it both ways. Tyson is losing a fight and he comes back and stops Botha with 1 punch and instead being credited with coming from behind and losing a fight he gets slammed for not dominating the fight. "
So true. I've been saying this for quite some time now. We can even throw the tucker fight in there when he was behind after 4 or 5 rounds, hurt in the 1st, came back and outboxed the guy to an unanimous decision. even against Douglas he was being whooped pretty hard until he came back with a knockdown (ok, he lost but he still showed why he is a great champion).
having said that ... my vote goes to Foreman based on the Moorer victory/2nd career.

 

The crazy Spanish guy. I thought I'd be hilariously clever and google translate 'hook' to Spanish.