Take your head out the numbers and see things as they really are. The Klits have been fighting fatties, washed up has-beens, spent forces and never-will-be-forces for ages. Anyone with half a boxing brain could see that. They've also avoided (especially Wlad) some potentially dangerous opponents. If we are talking about who Haye as fought thus far you can only point to Audley and (rightly) complain. Ruiz was a mando ( some people on this thread seem to forget that), Valuev was champ and an opponent that the Klits had failed to face. Haye's problem is this retirement thing. Even if he beats a Klit between now and then, his resume at HW will look weak.
You can say the same thing for the Klitschko haters? Posters like Hendo, Fighting Weight, and Relentless don't even seem to be a fan of the sport in general.
unlike most klit fans (and dave slave) i actually watch, post in and make threads about other fighters and fights. davey boy has never posted in a thread not about haye/klit/adamek
No he doesn't, no one does. You talk complete, racially motivated shite. You attempts to hide your agenda are as appalling as you're understanding of biology. I must've missed that lesson in science where we discussed that gene that makes you get unwell when you're old if you've been a bad oerson
this fool was in the same thread where loufatski was arguing that haye and lennox aren't british because they're not pure, he was agreeing with loufatski!
Ič not talking about hating - i'm reffering to the racial stuff that appears to be bubbling beneath the surface of a lot of the posts. It's stuff like relentless is talking about above.
-They don't tell us the whole story but those numbers do tell us that Haye has not only been less active than the brothers but his opposition has been far less successful and or regarded. -Looks like you covered everything than. :nut -What dangerous opponents has Wlad avoided? -My issue with Haye is his activity level. Harrison wouldn't be a problem if he fought more frequently against ranked oppositoin.
no that was 11 weeks not 9 weeks (still impressive though). i think its probably likely that no heavyweight champion of the modern era has ever defended their title twice in 9 weeks. the vlad v haye fight would be the biggest money generating heavyweight fight since lewis v tyson so why would vlad allow zero time for promoting such a huge event and risk the biggest payday of is career through injury?
It goes both ways, and Relentless has often made some incredibly offensive racial and homophobic posts without even being baited.
The Wlad camp begs to differ, but I don't care how they promote it, if both guys get in the ring, I'm happy.
This is ****ing ridiculous. WTF did Gaye do at HW to be a defining fight and/or win for Wlad? Adamek would be a better win; he has a better resume at HW and it's far more proven then David Gaye. ANd just to show how much you know, Vitali fought Arreola and K.Johnson of just over 9 weeks, 2 years ago.
I think that Relentless is your only example, but I can see your point. But I will say this, Relentless is the biggest wind up merchant going - he often baits the Eastern Europens to get them to say the racial stuff that they actual believe.
-Relentless is most certainly not. I listed three or more just a few posts up. -You could put the same spin on Dave-Slave's comments. Who is also a troll and possible alt.
Since you like facts and figures: Fights since 2005: Haye...........14 Wlad...........12 last 4 HW fights covered in (Haye's time at HW) Haye........24 months Wlad........23 months So, Haye is busier OVERALL and almost exactly as busy at HW. Sorry, mate.