Why fans bought into David Haye

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Jan 21, 2011.


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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not sure what you think is racist about that. It's accurate.
     
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  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The majority of your post is nonsense but let's look at the last line:

    Answer me one question, a simple "yes" or "no". Has the heavyweight division been talked about more because of Haye, or has he turned people away?

    The division would be a lot quieter, it would have a lot less interest and it would be more boring. I've been on ESB, with this account, since 2006 and I know that, before Haye, there was very little interest in the division. The odd thread here, yeah, but nothing significant. The numbers of threads about the heavyweight division has blown up in recent years and a big part of that is down to Haye. He is an attraction.

    Like I said, people can either love him or hate him. That's not the point. The point is, though, that he's a much needed character in the previously lifeless, dull division. Nobody cared about the division in the period of eastern European domination and nobody will care after Haye has gone.
     
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  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think "The world wants to see an exciting heavyweight because they are tired of dull fighters with no killer instinct and even less charisma, which has been the sole reason that the level of prestige in being 'heavyweight champion' has sunk quicker than a German U-Boat" is closer to the mark.
     
    Jack, Jan 21, 2011
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  4. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jack, do you think Haye is required to fight both Klitschkos, and not just the one.
     
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  5. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Jack stop being obsessed with Haye and the Klitschko's. You need an intervention. You seem clinical, try another topic.
     
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  6. vanargian_guard

    vanargian_guard Mini-Mandingo Full Member

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    Here's the flaw with this: Haye is not exciting. He threw 7 punches a round against Valuev. If that's exciting, then Mayweather with his 35 punches a round is an ATG exciting fighter. Haye isn't exciting in his opponent choice either. Finally, seeing him against a good opponent AKA a Klitschko wouldn't be exciting, because if he ran against Valuev, he sure as hell will stay away from Vlad or Vitali all night.

    He may talk up a storm, but that isn't enough. To do boxing a favor, fighters have to back up those words. If talking and personality alone did it, Mayorga would be boxing's biggest asset.
     
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  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, I don't. I think everyone would prefer it if he did, but his legacy will be sealed with a win over Wlad. It's the fight everyone wants to see, whereas a Vitali bout, right now, isn't that intriguing. If Haye beat Wlad, maybe a Vitali fight would be huge, I don't know, but for his legacy and public opinion, a win over Wlad alone would be enough, I think.
     
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  8. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch

     
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  9. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just learned how to read between the phrases.
     
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  10. vanargian_guard

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's nothing racist about that either. Aside from that, there's a difference between "eastern European" and "African American". I'll let you think about it.
     
    Jack, Jan 21, 2011
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  12. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    I don't think Haye is really worth talking about for 8+ pages in my opinion. I would hate to think how many more threads will be made. If David retires, with the WBA strap without fighting someone remotely challenging....
     
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  13. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only reason people bought into Haye hype is that he hasn't fought Klitschkos yet. This is the same hype that was surrounding Peter and Arreola before. He tricked british public into believing that he has a chance against either Klitschko while he has done nothing in the ring to support this claim.
     
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  14. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You should read up on racism.

    Not a big difference as 95% of Eastern Europeans are Slavs.

    The Nazis considered them an inferior race. And yes that was RACISM.

    Funny how the Germans have progressed a lot since then and yet some Americans/Brits still can't make a small step forward.
     
    Casamayor122, Jan 21, 2011
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  15. p4pBute

    p4pBute Active Member Full Member

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    After the clinic he put on agains audrey, how could one not see a little ali in him
     
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