If only Edwin Valero was alive, he'd be steamrolling these fighters at 135/140...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by charlie brown, Jan 21, 2011.


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  1. charlie brown

    charlie brown Guest

    He'd kick Soto's ass and flatten him rather easily. He beats Rios as well.

    He knocks out Khan and his glass jaw in 5.

    He brutalizes Devon Alexander and Tim Bradley.

    Then when Pacquiao is getting up there in age and declining, Valero shocks the world by knocking out Pacquiao.

    That's how it was supposed to turn out. Valero would've been a star. Too bad he was crazy.
     
    charlie brown, Jan 21, 2011
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  2. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    he wouldve had a lot of good wins but I think he'd lose to one of those guys
     
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  3. Golden Boy 360

    Golden Boy 360 Boxing's Biggest Cash Cow Full Member

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    I'm not sure about steamroll but he would definitely give them hell.
     
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  4. BoxKing

    BoxKing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    *Looks around, wanting to post*

    *Notices its another Charlie Brown thread*

    *Walks away*
     
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  5. zabjudah

    zabjudah Guest

    you know that playa.
     
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  6. charlie brown

    charlie brown Guest

    Slow ass Marcos Maidana had Khan doing the Urdu shuffle. You think someone as fast, explosive, and relentless as Valero wouldn't have knocked out Khan cold?
     
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  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Khan, Alexander and Bradley will outbox him . . .

    Even Holt whom Bradley beat will KO him silly . . . now you can stop dreaming.
     
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  8. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    gotta be honest, based on what? he never beat anyone of note and while his knockout streak was impressive, henry clark had a great knockout streak against hobos to. doesn't mean much unless you kick it up in competition. kinda in the ayala bracket
     
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  9. brickfists

    brickfists The Nonpareil Full Member

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    boxing needs fighters like valero. muderous punchers are the most exciting thing in the game regardless of the size a p4p puncher is the thing we all love
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No, he was and is a bit overrated - thanks at first to the KO1 streak and the sparring legends, and now to the rockstar effect of dying young.

    One quality win (a fairly comfortable one over Antonio DeMarco) doesn't automatically make one the gargantuan Pacquiao-slayer Valero's been made out to be.
     
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  11. charlie brown

    charlie brown Guest

    Mosquera was rated by Ring Magazine as the #4 best junior lightweight in the world behind Pacquiao, Morales, and Barrera before Valero knocked him out in Mosquera's hometown -- Valero dominated the whole fight with the exception of a knockdown. Antonio DeMarco was a highly touted prospect before Valero went into DeMarco's hometown, got elbowed causing a brutal cut, and still dominated every single round. Ring Magazine ranked Pitalua as the #6 lightweight in the world and Valero blitzed him in 2 rounds without breaking a sweat.

    Valero faced some good fighters and was not close to losing a fight.

    Basically, he was a beast and he would've curbstomped someone with as weak of a chin as Khan or Bradley.
     
    charlie brown, Jan 21, 2011
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  12. Aztecas

    Aztecas Guest

    :lol::lol:

    You obviusly dont know, but
    Valero DUCKED Soto many times.

    In the fall of 2009, Arum tried to put Valero against Soto for the Pac-Cotto undercard, and soon afterwards, Valero packed up his belonging and flew out of his temporary home (Costa Mesa, CA) , to his native Venezuela.
    Then he pretentende to come back to the US by himself, and told the INS officials that he had a DUI/Loaded firearm in car arrest from earlier in Texas, and the INS denied his entry,, and Valero had en excuse for not fighting Soto then.

    So Arum re-scheduled Soto-Valero for Dec, 5th in Cancun, Mexico (so that Valero had no VISA issues) and again Valero chickened-out.
    Arum, then, again, re-scheduled Soto-Valero for Dec. 19th, and again Valero chickened-out.
    Thats why Arum put Valoro's replacement-Jesus Chavez, while Valero fought a easy c-level BUM named Hector Velazquez.

    Then after Valero beat DeMarco, Soto was there at ringside, and challenged Valero to a next fight, and Valero chickened-out again, and vacated his belt, to avoid defending it against Soto.
    Thats why Soto fought David Diaz for the vacant WBC 135lbs belt, cause Valero was too much of a coward to defend it against Soto.

    Humberto Soto would've KO'd Valero in a brutal and painfull way.
     
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  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Precisely. :thumbsup
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I don't give a flying **** how the stupid ****ing Ring Magazine rated Mosquera.

    I already acknowledged DeMarco as a quality win. Valero did not "dominate every round". He won most of the rounds, especially as it wore on and did begin to take control and dominate toward the end. Saying he dominated every minute of every round is just inaccurate.

    His power seemed to really ebb with the move up in weight and I seriously doubt he'd have hurt Khan or Bradley. He'd also get thoroughly outboxed by both, even though he did exhibit some decent skills and speed vs. DeMarco.
     
    IntentionalButt, Jan 21, 2011
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  15. charlie brown

    charlie brown Guest

    :lol:

    You think Valero was scared to fight Soto? When was the last time Soto fought someone who was actually a top 10 fighter in their division? Guzman? And Guzman boxed his ass off for 12 rounds because Soto has no defense and has two left feet.
     
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