Breaking news: Klitschko-Adamek appears to be a go

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  1. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    How can anyone not be an Adamek fan?

    He just wants to fight.
     
  2. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny, cause Tyson was also the beneficiary of many weak fighters, who were defeated before they even stepped into the ring with him. Don't act like Tyson didn't feast on bums either. In fact almost every great HW has and only a select few were fortunate enough to have other all time greats as their contemporaries that they could challenge. Wlad has done everything that could be asked of him with what he has. I believe Adamek will prove to be a stiff challange for Wlad both technically and mentally. This is a guy who rolls over for no one.
     
  3. Sounds like you don't know jack **** about boxing and just go by the things that you hear.

    Guys like Pinklon Thomas, Michael Spinks, and Razor Ruddock are all better than any opponent Wlad has ever faced.
     
  4. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So who do you believe Wlad had missed out on? Is there someone he ducked? What do you want him to do? Get into a time machine and go back to the 80's? There's no reason not to believe Wlad wouldn't be a top notch boxer then either. Or is Tyson in your opinion some god who had no weaknesses and could not be defeated? if so, I guess Buster showed you otherwise.
     
  5. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Come on, Spinks was a ****ing terrible heavyweight champ. Why discredit yourself so easily?
     
  6. You think any of Wlad's opponents could've beaten an undefeated Holmes? Didn't think so, chump.
     
  7. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch And he finally agrees to the fight, and W. Klits is chasing legends like Chisora and Adamek instead. That's not what Wlad needs at this point. I couldn't give two shits about these fights.

    If Haye doesn't get at least one of them, he should retire because they are all making the HW division a circus act.
     
  8. My initial argument wasn't that Wlad hasn't faced all his top contenders -- he's faced whatever pittance today's heavyweight division has to offer.

    My qualm is that Wlad fights like a straight up *****. He's bigger, stronger, and more athletically gifted than all of his opponents, yet he still jabs and grabs like a giant *****.
     
  9. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    What kind of ***** do you get that jabs at you? Are you sure you're not talking about ****?
     
  10. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spinks didn't win either of those fights in my mind, from what I can remember.

    Not that it really matters. Holmes was completely lackidasical in those fights and lacked any sense of urgency. He was always a bit of a careful fighter, but he had not been challenged enough during his championship reign and he took it all for granted by the time he faced Spinks.
     
  11. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is nothing on Haye's resume that surpasses what Adamek has done. Or are you impressed with Haye's paper belt he barely managed to eek away from Valuev? Fact: Adamek has spent much less time in the HW division and yet he has managed to earn more credibility than Haye. Go figure. Besides, Haye had his chances to put this fight together several times and he blew it. Its clear Adamek is here to fight and Haye is here to twitter about how life is unfair and how all the haters are against him. Take that **** to preschool.:|
     
  12. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jab and grab has been around ever since there have been tall fighters.

    It was a pretty big part of later era Ali's repertoire. Lennox Lewis was a jab and grab master.
     
  13. I'll give Ali a pass. He was way past his best and he was against fighters who were his physical superiors by that point in his career.

    Lewis did jab and grab, but not nearly to the extent as Wlad. When Lewis had an opponent utterly outmatched, it was a quick night's work. You think Ibragimov would've gone 12 rounds against Lewis? You think Lewis would have taken 7 rounds to take out a shot Rahman? He starched a prime Rahman in 4.
     
  14. Bill Patrice

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    That's actually quite a good point about Wladimir and Lennox Lewis respectively. Though I think Wladimir is a very good fighter, he is not comparable to Lewis. Lennox concussively stopped Rahman in four very satisfying rounds, whilst Wladimir took almost twice the time to wear down an old shot Rahman. I don't criticise Wladimir for two reasons: Number one, we desperately needed a champion to be dominant between 2005 and 2010, to stop the constant flow of different champions, and number two; he carries himself with pride and dignity.

    For me Wladimir lacks impressive looking wins. He fights good fighters, but seldom finishes the job quickly or in a particularly satisfying manner. Emmanuel Steward always says that Wladimir has never operated at close to 100 percent in the ring, and I tend to agree with him; however, I can't see how he is going to get much better than he currently is?

    So far as the Adamek Haye situation is concerned. I do think people overrate Adamek and give Haye too little respect. Adamek has only beaten one true top 10 fighter in Arreola. Besides that their respective heavyweight resumes are not substantially different. The only difference is that Haye is brash, arrogant and constantly threatening to unify. Let's remember that Adamek looked a little poor against Jason Estrada, and showed a decisive lack of power against Michael Grant.

    Anyone who thinks Adamaek is a threat to the extent that Haye is cannot be truthful or honest. Adamek is a very good boxer, but how on earth is he expected to beat Wladimir? David Haye has a very good chance of completely derailing Wladimir's run right now. No one else is remotely close to punching as hard and as fast as he does.
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    if he fights rahman....its possible adamek doesnt get by him...very brave for TA to take....but very dangerous ...the guy has balls.....