If only Edwin Valero was alive, he'd be steamrolling these fighters at 135/140...

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    he would've lost the moment he stepped up in class
     
    PH|LLA, Jan 22, 2011
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  2. AnthonyW

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    Like IB said, he has become overrated since he died. Some of the guys mentioned would have managed him with ease. Especially at 140lbs.
     
    AnthonyW, Jan 22, 2011
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  3. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That guy reminded me of the Wind Mills, Rip thou, but guy wasnt all that good.
     
    MaliBua, Jan 22, 2011
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  4. Xplosive

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    No.... now thats UNDERRATING him. Theres nobody from 135-140 who would've beaten him "with ease". Pac would have beaten him with ease, but thats about it.

    He could have proved a very tough fight for either Alexander, or Bradley, and he'd have been a live threat to KO Con.
     
    Xplosive, Jan 22, 2011
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  5. AnthonyW

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    'Ease' was probably a strong word, but they would have beaten him.

    He had one good win to his name, that was his last bout. What makes you think his power carries to 140lbs? No-one knows that it would.

    And although he did show a bit of boxing ability in his last bout, he was still pretty much limited. He could definitely be outboxed, and was fairly easy to hit. Someone with decent pop could make it an easy night.
     
    AnthonyW, Jan 22, 2011
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  6. WidowTaker40

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    Valero was aggressive but was overrated and had poor defense. Would've gotten knocked out eventually.
     
    WidowTaker40, Jan 22, 2011
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  7. kirk

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    Valero was and is so overrated :lol:

    The guy didnt do anything to warrant this mythical stature he gets other then being physically gifted, beating everyone youre supposed to beat while on your way up the ladder, and the ever important dying young.

    What fighter did Valero ever beat that Khan, Bradley, or Maidana, Judah, and Matthyse for that matter, wouldnt have also beaten? Meanwhile, these guys have actually fought some top opponents, in higher weightclasses.... and yet Valero eats them up? lol... funny.

    No way nor reason Id favor Valero over Matthyse, or Bradley.
     
    kirk, Jan 22, 2011
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  8. bernie4366

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    Actually, I just meant Soto at 130 period, he looks ordinary at 135. Posters here saying Valero was one dimensional, no defense etc don't know wtf they're talking about. What got people so excited about Valero in the first place is he had crushing power but also had fantastic defensive, countering, moving skills to go with it. The man could box like a dream when he wanted to, and crush a mofo with one punch. If he carries his power to 140 he doesn't lose to anyone but Pac, but it's really an open question as to whether his power goes with him if he moved up another weight class. We'll never know.
     
    bernie4366, Jan 22, 2011
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  9. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dear Shitface

    Change your avatar its too wide and ****ing with the screen

    regards
     
    doylexxx, Jan 22, 2011
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  10. Sunchild78

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    To bad his crazy ass is getting steam rolled in hell right now.
     
    Sunchild78, Jan 22, 2011
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  11. Noam Chomsky

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    Berto's uppercut would cleanly separate Valero's head from his neck.
     
    Noam Chomsky, Jan 22, 2011
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  12. charlie brown

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    Berto got his ass thoroughly schooled by Collazo and hasn't faced anyone with a pulse since.

    :good
     
    charlie brown, Jan 22, 2011
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  13. Noam Chomsky

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    He did enough in the 12th to win, hater.
     
    Noam Chomsky, Jan 22, 2011
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  14. Royal-T-Bag

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    Valero has been mad overated lately on here. The guy has one (arguably 2) good wins. None against anyone considered a decent champ. He would get owned by all the top guys at 140, even Kotelnik.
     
    Royal-T-Bag, Jan 22, 2011
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  15. charlie brown

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    Ok, he won the 12th round. Too bad he lost 6 rounds before that. :lol:
     
    charlie brown, Jan 22, 2011
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