felix trinadad(loaded gloves?)vs mamadou thiam

Boxing Fanatic · Jan 20, 2011

Vargas was a steroid taking cheat.

Lance_Uppercut · Jan 20, 2011

Boxing Fanatic said: ↑

Vargas was a steroid taking cheat.
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Just one fight...

themadman100100 · Jan 20, 2011

im still waiting for just one example of a fight were a guy swelled shut a guys eye and forehead with one punch within seconds.the fact is that tito and his father should be in fu**ing prison.they could of killed somebody.those cheating a** mother fu**ers!

PATSYS · Jan 21, 2011

Lance_Uppercut said: ↑

Why did their corners approve the wraps Pat? Especially since both Joppy and Vargas claim to had been warned BEFORE they fought tito? Care to give it a shot?:huh
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Perhaps they did not really understand the effects of the wraps and just wanted the fight to go on so they can collect their money?

If you are not satisfied with my answer, then you better ask them as I can not possibly read their mind.

One thing is for sure, Tito got caught with illegal hand wraps and papa Trinidad sad he always wrapped TIto's hand like that.

Comments?

HEADBANGER · Jan 21, 2011

themadman100100 said: ↑

rumors were circulating for awhile about tito trinadad fighting with loaded gloves.fernando vargas talked about it.we all know about the cast his father wrapped on tito's left hand before hopkins team was even in the dressing room.they needed a bolt cutter to cut it off.

anyways i always thought something was very strange and just wrong in the thiam fight. he hit thiam with a left hook/uppercut and within seconds his eye swelled shut and his forehead and face just was swelled up all within seconds.i have NEVER seen something like that.never by a punch anyway.the only time i ever seen something like that is when someone was hit with a pipe.his fight with joppy was a strange looking fight as well.

thoughts?
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don't expect anyone to come down hard on cheats on esb.

this forum is made up delusional fools who will support the likes of trinidad, toney, mosley, jones, and margarito despite the fact they are proven cheats who feel they must use unlawful advantages to win boxing matches :-(

in some ways, these delusional supporters are actually more sickenning than the cheating boxers themselves :dead

WidowTaker40 · Jan 21, 2011

Trinidad was a known cheater and he probably loaded his gloves more than Margarito.

Uncle Rico · Jan 21, 2011

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Trinidad was one of the hardest welterweight punchers of all time. Equilibrium destroying punches with pin point technique and accuracy. Get the **** over it. Go buy Trinidad's career set and find some of his amateur fights. He hit JUST as ****ing hard. Do you want to know something relevant? Trinidad broke both of his hands in 1 fight, early in his career and his camp had to adjust the way they were wrapping his hands to prevent them from breaking again. When you hit that hard, and you are hitting a human skull any which way you can, breaking your hand is very likely!

Many other fighters have STACKED their knuckles in similar fashions. De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Marco Antonio Barrera have also stacked over their knuckles to protect their hands. Freddie Roach once said that before one of Barrera's fights, his corner had to actually cut the glove open to get his fist in and out of the glove, otherwise it wouldn't have fit. If it was a REAL issue, than De La Hoya (and many others) would have complained about Trinidad's wraps as well. But no body does you know why? Because in boxing the way boxers wrap their hands slightly varies from boxer to boxer to fit their taste. I've been around a lot of amateur fights and I have seen the way trainers wrap hands, and its a fantastic art form to be honest.

I have heard from local trainers who've been in the game for quite some time, and they say the way Trinidad hands were wrapped were absolutely perfect for protecting his hands.

So stop ****ing smearing Trinidad's legacy by bringing up some hypothetical nonsense like loaded gloves, ffs.

And to answer your question, yes peoples eyes swell up from a single punch. Do you really understand how hard a regular boxer can punch? Let alone one of the hardest punchers of all time. The way Trinidad caught Thiam, with that left uppercut/left hook combination was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen in my life. That would have busted most fighters eyes up into a swollen mess.
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End the thread.

46and0 · Jan 22, 2011

HEADBANGER said: ↑

don't expect anyone to come down hard on cheats on esb.

this forum is made up delusional fools who will support the likes of trinidad, toney, mosley, jones, and margarito despite the fact they are proven cheats who feel they must use unlawful advantages to win boxing matches :-(

in some ways, these delusional supporters are actually more sickenning than the cheating boxers themselves :dead
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Yet another Jaw-dropping post of staggering brilliance from Team Elite Chief Exec. Headbanger.

I couldn't agree more. A large swathe of deluded repugnant minions pollute these forums with their deplorable appraisal of some of boxing's most disgraced cheats. :dead:dead

Salutations on highlighting to the boxing fraternity that these boxers deserve to have their names completely obliterated from the history books, and they should be frowned upon with equal measure to the likes of Marion Jones and Ben Johnson. :deal

paloalto00 · Jan 22, 2011

Funny how Tito's wraps were legal in every other state. Stfu.

Karceno · Jan 22, 2011

themadman100100 said: ↑

rumors were circulating for awhile about tito trinadad fighting with loaded gloves.fernando vargas talked about it.we all know about the cast his father wrapped on tito's left hand before hopkins team was even in the dressing room.they needed a bolt cutter to cut it off.

anyways i always thought something was very strange and just wrong in the thiam fight. he hit thiam with a left hook/uppercut and within seconds his eye swelled shut and his forehead and face just was swelled up all within seconds.i have NEVER seen something like that.never by a punch anyway.the only time i ever seen something like that is when someone was hit with a pipe.his fight with joppy was a strange looking fight as well.

thoughts?
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what about pacquiao margarito? he hit margarito with the same punch and you saw the results. why didnt it happen to anyone else? [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLt4cnV1X7o[/ame]

Ech110 · Jan 22, 2011

themadman100100 said: ↑

rumors were circulating for awhile about tito trinadad fighting with loaded gloves.fernando vargas talked about it.we all know about the cast his father wrapped on tito's left hand before hopkins team was even in the dressing room.they needed a bolt cutter to cut it off.

anyways i always thought something was very strange and just wrong in the thiam fight. he hit thiam with a left hook/uppercut and within seconds his eye swelled shut and his forehead and face just was swelled up all within seconds.i have NEVER seen something like that.never by a punch anyway.the only time i ever seen something like that is when someone was hit with a pipe.his fight with joppy was a strange looking fight as well.

thoughts?
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Round 4, Pac vs. Marg. 1 punch shattered his orbital bone, eye was almost swollen shut with 20 seconds

pahapoisu · Jan 22, 2011

Mosley did a number on some dudes eye...Was it Fernando?
MOSLEY IS LOADED!!!!!
:roll:

Wilhelm · Jan 22, 2011

I remember the Thiam fight. He got a thumb in the eye, hence the swelling. Next question.

gr8fight · Jan 22, 2011

pound said: ↑

Trinidad was one of the hardest welterweight punchers of all time. Equilibrium destroying punches with pin point technique and accuracy. Get the **** over it. Go buy Trinidad's career set and find some of his amateur fights. He hit JUST as ****ing hard. Do you want to know something relevant? Trinidad broke both of his hands in 1 fight, early in his career and his camp had to adjust the way they were wrapping his hands to prevent them from breaking again. When you hit that hard, and you are hitting a human skull any which way you can, breaking your hand is very likely!

Many other fighters have STACKED their knuckles in similar fashions. De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, and Marco Antonio Barrera have also stacked over their knuckles to protect their hands. Freddie Roach once said that before one of Barrera's fights, his corner had to actually cut the glove open to get his fist in and out of the glove, otherwise it wouldn't have fit. If it was a REAL issue, than De La Hoya (and many others) would have complained about Trinidad's wraps as well. But no body does you know why? Because in boxing the way boxers wrap their hands slightly varies from boxer to boxer to fit their taste. I've been around a lot of amateur fights and I have seen the way trainers wrap hands, and its a fantastic art form to be honest.

I have heard from local trainers who've been in the game for quite some time, and they say the way Trinidad hands were wrapped were absolutely perfect for protecting his hands.

So stop ****ing smearing Trinidad's legacy by bringing up some hypothetical nonsense like loaded gloves, ffs.

And to answer your question, yes peoples eyes swell up from a single punch. Do you really understand how hard a regular boxer can punch? Let alone one of the hardest punchers of all time. The way Trinidad caught Thiam, with that left uppercut/left hook combination was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen in my life. That would have busted most fighters eyes up into a swollen mess.
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thumbsup:thumbsup Exactly. The commision itself looked at Tito's wraps in the Hopkins fight and found NOTHING ILLEGAL. That's why he wasn't fined and suspended. It was only an issue because HBO happen to mentioned it

paloalto00 · Jan 22, 2011

gr8fight said: ↑

thumbsup:thumbsup Exactly. The commision itself looked at Tito's wraps in the Hopkins fight and found NOTHING ILLEGAL. That's why he wasn't fined and suspended. It was only an issue because HBO happen to mentioned it
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