I feel like I can move faster afterward and working on my calf endurance. It seems to be working. Is this a bad idea?
Your calves should get a workout in theory, but the sensation of increased speed after taking them off is largely an illusion, and inevitably temporary.
Haha charlatan, this forum makes me laugh, youve just described you and your friend onepunch down to a T mate, that was pretty smart posting there. scrap works closely with universities, now i doubt a uni would be interested in the ideas of a quack would they, so because you are both too stupid to understand what pro receptive does and you dont like it, now you start to throw around accusations and claims in a desperate attempt to appear like you still know what your talking about, or even worse, to appear that you know better than a pro boxing coach with over 50 years experience.. when admittedly youve never even tried the training yourself, so how can you expect to understanding the effect it has on your body?, right... you cant, thought so... sounds about right for these forums. Its blatantly obviouse a quick google search on some words so you can pretend to understand what they mean and what there about is all the info and experience you guys think you need to start ragging on boxing coaches and their training principles or idea's online, how creative of you.. would you go and pay for a boxing lesson and do the same to a coach in person? no because you cant unless hidden behind a computer with google ready to go, because you know nothing of boxing and would get laughed out of any gym for trying to argue with any coach.. fact, being online saves you from this, so you act like you know about boxing to impress people online.. so sad. Its clear to me and probably many others that the posters like you 2 are the charlatans using this forums as a cover to seem like youve got the experience needed to argue with/pretend to be some knowledgeable/experienced boxing coach and or fighter when its clear what you are to anyone that does actually box or coach, youve both been to a few boxing classes and think you know the score, you think you know boxing in and out now, you think you atleast have the knowledge to effectivley play boxing coach online and maybe get away with it however you lack the enthusiasm and it seems intelligence to even pull that off.. failing to properly study boxing before you go around spreading bull**** facts online, playing boxing coach, being charlatons. unlucky, maybe next time, on another forums someone will buy it, and you can act like a somebody, not this time though. sorry. scrap is a well respected coach, people listen to him in person and respect his advice and opinion, there really is no need for him to play the charlatan online for this reason unlike many who come on these forums, im sure scrap doesnt care about impressing a bunch of online suits and wannabe boxers lol, he cares about results and improving his fighters, thats what earns his living, that is his lifes work. appearing knowledgable on a forums isnt going to help him at all. instead this is what onepunch does, hes projecting, he does it because in person his words, advice and criticisms have no pull in a boxing gym whatsoever, i dont think they would even have any pull in a boxercise class, lol why? because he doesnt know anything about boxing, its not his proffession nor is coaching it, hes a lawyer, he knows about bickering and pointless arguing, and thats what he does on here, when you look through his posts. being online, he can try to appear important and knowledgeable by using google for 5 minutes whenever he gets stuck or his knowledge seases to cover that perticular topic, as a coach in a boxing gym you cant do that mate, your on your own, you either know what your doing or you dont, theres no time to google and bluff you way through the day.. lol. us coaches have to actually know what were arguing about. all that just to keep up the appearance of being in the right, just to impress people on a forums.. how sad. online its different you can argue like a girl never stating any useful facts or tips just critisizing what others say to seem like you know about boxing but you couldnt do this in a gym without being called out on your claims, so you say the ladder being more sport specific than the pro receptive and not giving a reason or argument for this ''fact'' of his, bear in mind hes allready admitted hes never done pro receptive before? amazing.. well im calling you out onepunch, explain why if you can, you think ladder drills are more sport specific? :-( Pro receptive is effectively working all the systems involved in the balance loop, even adding to that in turning the muscles through feel into sensors that will pick up on changes in weight distribution and compensate through muscle memory with the activation of other muscles to maintain balance, all done without the use of the eyes to guage whats going on, bringing it all back to feel, effectively cutting out the roll of the eyes in some exercises. putting aside the benefits of added awareness over the location and co ordination of your body parts, the added focus and state of mind it teaches you and the fact that your working on balance, giving the feet a hell of a workout, and then the strength and conditioning benefits to pro receptive.. why do you propose that its not as boxing specific as ladder drills? is it because your not busy looking at your feet and practicing a series of pointless steps that would never be used in the ring? because the movements on the ladder are pre concieved unlike the movements sometimes/usually made in a fight situation? because you havent seen pacman or mayweather do it? your right onepunch i can now finally see how you think ladder drills are more sport specific to boxing than balance itself.., right? your an idiot onepunch, like i said in another post earlier this week, you stick to your own proffession of arguing like a nagging wife in court and we will stick to ours, ok sweetheart?
Sorry for the rant guys, im just sick of posters like onepunch and withoutwire taking the **** and criticising in a non constructive or informative way whenever someone posts a video trying to help or give out good advice, the only thing that keeps me coming back to these forums is that knowing there will be fighters lurking around that might read what gets posted and it may help them no matter what these other posters like to think they know.
Yeah it's a bad idea mate, it messes up your sense of feel and your biomechanics so your chance of injury is greatly increased. As someone else said you have a sense of moving faster afterwards but you're actually not. Another thing is that your calf muscles are mostly composed of slow twitch fibres so they are naturally resistant to fatigue. You'll be working on your calves when you're skipping and moving so these things make wearing ankle weights pointless with an increased risk of injury.
This makes complete sense to me. No offense to anyone, but I believe that Scrap has a far better understanding of this than myself and others, and this not only makes sense to me, but good common sense to me. One of the things I have noticed on here is that when people give sound advice, if it is contrary to what others believe, it will be discounted to fit their argument. It then becomes a pissing contest rather than finding the best answer and growing in knowledge as to how to effectively train various facets of boxing/conditioning/coordination, etc. I also think the problem is that if you do not have some type of a base of understanding, it is difficult to decipher what is and is not good advice.
First, learn to be concise, that was just boring. The fact is, I said I wouldn't knock the exercise until I tried it, so ONCE AGAIN your reading comprehension fails you. This is the second time now. Try LEARNING TO READ. ..and just because someone disagrees with your coach, doesn't mean they are wrong or stupid, in fact my main problem with scrap is that, despite obviously having some knowledge (the extent of which I do not know), he continuously uses obscure/amibuous words/terminology without explaining it. This is either ignorant or arrogant - you pick. EDIT: I just read the bit about you 'calling me out' (LOL). I HAVE done balance training before, but not in this way. The reason I hold the opinion that ladder training is more sport specific than standing on two pipes is because ladder training involves MOVEMENT, and also requires proprioception because if you don't know where your feet are, you will tangle up. I fail to see how the pipe drill will be more sport specific because you are holding a stance and not moving beyond wobbling. EDIT2: and once again, my choice of profession has no effect on my ability to box, or your failure to read - the only thing that is definite about the differences in our prospective professions, is that in a few years I could be earning enough to buy you.
Thanks man. It's good to be back posting. TVLPC is a good guy. EDIT2: and once again, my choice of profession has no effect on my ability to box, or your failure to read - the only thing that is definite about the differences in our prospective professions, is that in a few years I could be earning enough to buy you. Classy.:verysad
Looks like I got you at the wrong time of the month. Anyway, I know the meaning of proprioception (or "pro receptive" as you called it :rofl) because I am a medical student, I learned this stuff years ago. But to throw it out there as if it has significance in boxing is charlatan behaviour designed to impress all the naive posters on here. I'm sure he's a great coach, but big words on a message forum doesn't make anyone a good coach. Explanations do. You can crawl back into your cave now.
Call it what you wish, he is unable to hold a reasoned argument, and fails to comprehend the answers he quotes while simultaneously attempting to insult me based on my prospective profession, which if anything shows how willing he is to comment on things he doesn't understand.
Withoutwire, sorry but thought anybody on a training forum, would know what i was talking about. Seems I was right, theres some great lads on here. To be honest, grammer isnt one of my strong points. Its on the wrong side of the brain for me, but I can live with it, and have done. :nut.