Pernell Whitaker v Floyd Mayweather Jr

Floyd toyed with Chavez at times. He was never in danger, rolling with punches, taking them on the shoulder or blocking with the elbows and then ripping him up with brutal counters. Chavez was utterly dominated by the quality of Floyd's better work.

Castillo outweighed Floyd significantly come fight night and Floyd fought on with an injury, which is testament to his intangiables, and still disputedly managed to win the fight. (I've scored the fight for both men). In the second fight, when healthy, Floyd clearly outboxed Castillo.

Powerpuncher notes something that a lot of people are overlooking. At 130 - 135 (I still look at Floyd of his latter 130 days as a lightweight anyways) was an explosive fighter and much, much, much better offensively than the welterweight version that people seem to be using in a match up. This Floyd is NOT fighting the whole fight in a defensive shell. He will cause Pete problems with his blend of speed and power.

 

Not sure if this is a counter-response to my reply as you haven't quoted me, anyway, no doubt i have picked Whitaker to win, but any talk of something approaching Mayweather's 'kryptonite' is highly speculative, it's an over exaggeration mate.

 

You can be such a hardass, man.

 

Floyd was explosive in his sharpness versus Corrales ... that version of Floyd could comfortably fight at lightweight.

I'm not saying that Floyd was an Ike Williams, Edwin Rosario or a Duran, but at a lower weight, he punched well enough and moved good enough to give Pete a competitive fight, certainly not the blowout that some are making it out to be.

I think that Floyd is just as talented, probably more talented than Pete, but again, as I said, I think that Pete is certainly the more accomplished. As Monsieur Wenger says, talent without application remains wasted.

 

Yeah, he was whining like a ***** at times ... I think I scored it 8-4, although I'll certainly watch it again when I have the time, as memories need to constantly be refreshed if they're to remain accurate. I looked at it as a fight that showed that based on speed, technique and boxing ability, Floyd was superior and Castillo's rough-housing, as shown in the first fight, is the way to get to Floyd. I think it was clear enough that Floyd was superior on the night.

 

I'll agree that Pete has tools to beat Floyd and his proven level of craft at the weight leans much more in his favour, than Floyd's proven level of craft at 135. At the same time, there's things that Pete did that could be exploited by someone with the skillset, speed and timing to do so. I think that Floyd has some of the qualities to do so.

I'd favour Pete to win ... anyday of the week, but I certainly don't see it being a shutout or a fight that Floyd has no chance in.

 

When I watch it again (probably haven't seen it in about three or four years) I'll give you which rounds I thought Floyd won and which rounds I thought that Castillo did, in their second fight.

General question, do people ever keep their scorecards? I've scored each of the B-Hop and Taylor fights slightly differently with every viewing, same goes for Pete v Chavez and Floyd v De la Hoya. Additionally, who scores rounds even? I always try to force myself to declare a winner of the round.