How do you train footwork?

And whats important is that you and people like you keep telling yourself that money makes you rich, you have no idea what i will or wont do you dont know me, you certainley couldnt buy me you talk like you invented microsoft or somthing lol.

Oh yes and your the one thats willing to comment on things you dont understand onepunch, thats what this is all about.. isnt there an interesting law school forum you can go to? teach all them suits how to throw one properly?

Ive given up trying to reason with people in a constructive way on these forums, i used to make an effort but ive learned it doesnt matter how much sense you make on these forums theres always some Mc boxing coach online ready to blindly rip pieces from you for just trying to help or explain things to them.

 

You see, your 'you don't know me' retort means nothing when you say something like this:

You feel happy to make comments despite knowing sweet FA about me.. The only difference is, for the most part, I've stayed on topic and responded to what you've written.

I haven't commented on anything I don't understand, I have commented on common exercise terminology and techniques, both of which I am at least knowledgable enough to converse about intelligently, and know when I'm hearing bull****.

By the way, the continued lawyer 'insults' are the basis for me telling you that you're talking about things you don't understand. You clearly know nothing about the English legal profession, and yet make idiot comments. I said I'm a trainee lawyer, not a solicitor. There are two branches here to the legal profession - look it up.

LOL you might like to START reasoning in a constructive way. As soon as someone doesn't agree with you, you get the arsehole and start throwing insults about. You also make accusations and assertions about things that my posts never actually said - you need to learn to read and articulate yourself properly.

 

And Onepunch you need to learn theres more to life than money and nitt picking irrelevant points to seem correct, i bet you have loads of friends.. if YOU could actually read yourself you would see most of my posts arent like this, the only people i have done this with is you and ylem, because after ive spent time writing posts to help both of you understand, describing technique and explaining in great detail, what makes good technique, you both disagree blindly and then state a random useless fact, ''technique is about weight distribution'' which is a stupid and pointless comment. at the end of the day your not very good at arguments which is surprising and very funny to me given the career path youve chosen, the reason i keep having a dig at you and your proffession is because incase you failed to realise yet again.. ill point this out for you again despite your superior intelligence.. this is what YOU started doing to me on a few posts ive made now about boxing.. and youve just done the same to scrap.. worste thing is you did it and then contradicted yourself saying you wouldnt comment without trying the exercises first and you manged to do all that in 1 post.. the only difference between our career's is anybody can argue and be good at it, dont need a degree for it and i have valid points while doing this while you dont because you know **** all about boxing and have no experience as a coach, sorry. you keep posting stating i comment on things i dont understand yet you havent realised YET AGAIN that this is what you have done yourself first in every post and thats whats made me attack your posts in the first place... like i said before, educated or not, stupid, dumb, ******ed you pick your own word. its not an insult its a statement lol.

In return for my efforts i got stupid replys from both of you saying im talking bollocks with no follow up explanations of how you recon good technique is performed and then going on to agree with me without seeming to realise it yourself by saying pointless obvious things like ''its about weight distribution'' after ive just spent 20 minutes on a post about balance that obviously neither of you could understand.. ive finally learned its a waste of time and this is why my post's have changed, ill still be giving good advice to other posters i can just see when my time is wasted is all and its definently wasted on you and ylem, you allready know everything, you both make up technique as you go along and thats what good technique is in your eyes, and theres no convincing either of you. i didnt know there were so many world champs on these forums but i guess there are.

Usually i would go into detail disscussing the topic and state the pro's and con's that these type of exercises have over the old school exercises, i have done so on other boxing forums because the advice is appreciated, but im not going to waste my time here so ill just state the same fact i stated earlier that you managed to avoid completely in order to look like you can come back with a valid, useful point, which you failed to do so yet again..

The ladder drills are pre concieved.. so bored of explaining this now.. balance is not and scraps exercises are not, that is why its more boxing specific than ladder drills. in a real fight everyone finds they are off balance, even if theyve done 1000's of ladder drills and have spent time on their balance, why is this? because in a bout movements cant all be pre concieved, not to mention the fact that ladder drills dont do a fraction in terms of balance development compared to these exercises, if your balance is consistently being developed in ladder drills then your balance must be very, very poor.

Its also good strength and conditioning training for the feet which im guessing non of you have thought about training before, even though everything starts there..

Lets see a useful comment this time onepunch, lets disscuss this properly. i dont want to read, ''i smell bull****'' as an argument again if you want me to continue to post to you in a constructive way.

 

OMG this is like talking to a brick wall. Seriously.

Pretty much everything I said was a reasoned argument based on what YOU said. You then told me to stop nit picking instead of addressing the issue.. you know why? Because I was right.

When your only response to me is to go off on a text-wall rant (which actually barely addresses the issue at hand) you know you seriously suck at arguing.

And BTW, this is what I actually said

I don't contradict myself at any point, I simply said it is likely that I will find more carryover from ladder training, and the words 'you are just plain wrong' is not in reference to scrap's drill, but his comment that ladders don't do anything that somethign else culd not do better. - once AGAIN your reading comprehension fails you.

I've been able to do this to pretty much all of your arguments now. This is getting seriously old.

 

Still side stepping the fact that ladders are pre concieved, yes your very good at arguing.. i wouldnt be concidering a career change at all..

The only conclusion i can come to is that you dont understand what im saying by pre concieved so your avoiding that point and making youself appear dumb by doing so.. there will be next to no carry over because the movements are pre concived, this is not the case in boxing... so nope its not as boxing specific.. until you can explain to me why this doesnt matter then your wrong and arent arguing as effectivley as you think at all.. NEXT!

 

Of course I understand what pre-conceived means, it's the fact that you know what you're doing from the start - therefore taking the 'randomness out of it'. I just don't think it matters on this topic.

The randomness of standing on two pipes consists of movement in a very small area. I fail to see as of yet how that actually impacts performance.

Despite being so 'pre-conceived', ladder drills force you to move your feet in ways which could easily confuse you - add in random catching of a medicine ball and you can't even think about what your feet are doing.

I also think you are attributing too much to a drill, boxing isn't THAT random. The best development of your footwork should happen in sparring or sparring drills. What the ladder gives you is the agility/muscle memory to keep your feet in the right places as you do so.

Oh and btw I tried that drill last night, but I'm not going to come to a conclusion on it just yet as I've only tried it once - although so far it's just a nice foot massage.

 

I dont really get how balancing on 2 pipes is supposed to do anything other then helping balance.

got any videos where you work side stepping lateral movement and pivoting on the pipes?

 

This is what I thought, and tbh still think, although I will continue to try it out for a little longer to see.

Something I mentioned earlier, and have had a great deal of fun doing however, is shadowboxing wearing a blindfold. It is awesome, and as soon as you do anything off balance you know, because you can't compensate so well without your eyes.

 

balance is good and all but good balance will never give you proper foot work while proper foot work will always give you good balance.

and balance just seems to go out the window when you cant see. something like standing with your feet toe to heel becomes like 10 times harder if you close your eyes, ill have to give shadow boxing with my eyes closed a try.

 

Try it with the eyes shut on the rollers.

 

I disagree. If you have good balance you have good footwork. When you are balanced you don't have to think about footwork, it happens naturally. Balance comes before footwork. Footwork can't come before balance, if it does your footwork isn't right, your body mechanics aren't right. Everything needs to be built from balance and good posture. You need to understand that more than anyone Ylem.

 

I agree that balance is a pre-requisite of footwork, but balance =/= good footwork. Just like dancing/skipping, footwork, and the way it manifests itself in ring generalship, are learned skills. You can be a very rooted puncher with excellent balance, but your footwork will probably be slow.

 

well your wrong.

with good balance you only recovery from your mistakes more quickly...with good foot work you dont make mistakes.

when you shadow box and your off balance....you dont go work on improving your balance you improve your foot work.

 

I'd just say that's a footspeed issue then if your balance is good but your feet are slow, not alot you can do for that. Ring generalship and pre empting your opponents moves would be the way around that. Slow or not, good balance creates good footwork.

 

I think I see what you're saying, but it depends largely on what you're calling footwork.

So, could you explain what you mean by footwork? Because to me, good footwork is a skill, meaning it depends on, but is not synonymous to balance. I would call the ability to move in and out of range, to create angles and to control the ring good footwork. However, these are all developed skills.