Why fans bought into David Haye

I dont agree with Haye retiring either but the fact is its been planned for years, its not just cropped up, so the Klits know it too.

If Wlad really wanted this legacy fight he'd make it happen, he'd give the fans what they want, he has no excuse here for avoiding Haye as he is.

 

Desperate like hell for a black champion.

 

amazing how the brittards buy into this "the Klits ducked me"-bs.
seems like haye's plan worked to perfection...

 

Well when they stripped hayes for ducking chagaev, maybe wlad can have chagaev II for that belt, that is probley what is going to happen....

 

Wow. A "Haye is good for boxing because he's the right ethnicity" argument.

Since the f*ck when was David Haye the guy that would change it? The only people that think this are the massively deluded Brits because they have the worst media organizations in the world that hype their sports stars beyond all reality. Only in Britain do you find people that think England can win the World Cup every 4 years, only in Britain do you throw a parade and knight an entire team that wins a 2-team competition for the first time in 20 years, and only in Britain do you find people that think David Haye is heavyweight boxing's savior. Over here in the States, "heavyweight boxing's savior" is laughed at, if people even know him at all, most casual boxing fans don't, and it's not like our country even likes the Klitschkos either.

What fans outside of Britain cared about Haye-Harrison and Haye-Ruiz? In a completely pointless and worthless title match in Harrison, he held it on the same day as Pacquiao-Margarito. And you're honestly going to make the argument that the Klitschkos schedule fights the larger world doesn't care about when Haye and his management were dumb enough to not only schedule Harrison, making it a big British fight but a completely irrelevant fight on the global scene, but were also dumb enough to schedule it on the same day and so got vastly overshadowed by Pacquiao-Margarito? Get some smelling salts and wake up.

 

You really are a hater Jack. You're packing your hate in an argument that 'appears' sincere but clearly you're looking at the scenario from one perspective with clear bias; shame on you bro.

Germany has a population of 80,000,000 give or take. Germany loves the K brothers aand so does most of Eastern Europe and the Ukraine and even some of Russia which itself has a 140 - 180,000,000 odd population.

Add to that REAL boxing fans like myself from the UK + the mexican demographic who appreciate skill and heart.

These numbers don't lie. Hate all you like but the K brothers pull millions each fight and in today's climate only a *few* fighters can achieve that; this isn't like Tyson's time when money flew rampant.

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Numbers don't like Jack. You're in the minority here. Indeed, like you say boxing has gone global it's no longer just about the states - like the olympic games the best men win now not just who you favour.

 

Haye could've at least pick better opponents, don't you think?

He fights bums basically.

 

Jesus. It's not ****ing rocket science why the average punter isn't a fan of the Klitschko's.

The bog standard, semi-interested in boxing fan wants the heavyweight champ to be a destroyer and/or true warrior. To sniff a weakness out, and go in for the kill. To have charisma, balls, and be loved/hated equally. "The baddest man on the planet".

(I'm not talking about the hard core fans, that can watch a boxing match and appreciate why fighters are fighting they way they are).

that's why Tyson had so much attention coming up, because he was a wrecking ball.

That's why Lennox Lewis wasn't all that accepted - particularly in the US, because he was perceived to be 'safety first' after the McCall fight. Lewis looks like a chin first brawler compared to the brothers IMO.

If a young (Pre Lewis fight) David Tua clone came onto the scene now, he'd sell PPV's up the wazoo. Is he as good as the brothers? Nope. But by christ he's exciting.

I understand boxing isn't a tickling contest. And it isn't wrestling. Guys are really getting hit, and getting hurt.

Because of that, I can understand the two brothers chipping away at their opponents until they exhaust them, and finishing them when they nothing left. IMO, it's a great strategy, and if it was me in there, I'd probably do the same thing. Why give a sucker an even break?

But is it exciting to watch? No. The last fight I watched Wlad live was the Thomson fight (it was on free to air in australia early one morning), and I was yelling at the TV for Wlad to put an end to it. Thomson was gone for about the last 4 rounds of that fight, just asking to be KO'd.

Finally, Wlad did, he wins by TKO, so how can you argue with it? He won with little risk. But I wasn't in a hurry to watch him fight live again (i'll leave it a few days and youtube it), and I definitely wouldn't pay to watch him fight like that.

I used to argue with the old man about Lewis. He used to say "he's so much bigger, and stronger than the other guy, just ****ing twat him and get it over with.". I saw him for the first time in a couple of years a while ago and we got on to boxing and he said "maybe Lewis wasn't so bad after all. Those big brothers are almost impossible to beat, but Jesus they're dull".

The average punter doesn't care what percentage of the purse a fighter gets (as regardless it's more than the average man can ever dream of earning in one night anyway), who the ****ing promoter is, what corner he's fighting out of or any of that crap.

 

You thought that Russians and Ukrainians (etc) are typing their names like we do?

Wladimir Klitschko
Volodymyr Volodymyrovych Klychko
Володимир Володимирович Кличко

Vitaly, Vladimir..

 

It's getting boring arguing with Klit fans now. I've been following boxing for 25 years and I've seen the likes of prime Tyson, prime Holyfield, prime Bowe and prime Lewis when they were fighting at the time (not just in Youtube highlight videos), and they would have ruined Wlad. Vitali may have given them a run for their money but then he couldn't even beat an old Lewis. That may come as a shock to some from what I've seen some people post, but Lewis actually won.

It's almost like you people believe the HW division began with the Klits and it will end when they retire (are you old enough to remember the 1990's or did you just not have a television at the time?). The HW division is in a far worse state than most people can remember and the Klits only look so dominant because there's absolutely no-one else thats in shape and skilful enough to beat them. It's shocking that the only people who even have a chance of beating them are former Cruiserweights, which would be acceptable if they were anywhere near the standard of a much younger Holyfield.