And yes when you are under the lights, you do get scrutinized is a fact of life, the old timers got their shared too and this thread is not about hate, I just put the facts out here I didn't made that up, why not answer in a civilized manner, I didn't said the k's and Pac were cheaters and wife beaters or crackheads I didn't went personal with them, is their career what am posting about, is that hate? Just because I don't agree with certain move and decision they had make, am I a hater? If someone call me that without knowing me, that prove my point about the blindness of the K's and Pacs fans, it is about you guys more than it is about the athletes, if I'm not agreeing with you without any offensive words, why do you have to resort to being nasty, I'm not saying you are, but go up and down this thread and you will c the real hate, without provocation, I haven't post anything that is not public knowledge, why did Pac fought Mar when the Champ at that weight was Martinez, Williams could had been a better choice than Marg.
Who said Pac won't be fighting them in the near future? Arum is cashing out his Top Rank fighters first. Those would be great fights. But I'm sure you'll have something negative to say about it after Pac beats them. That's just your style, and your history on ESB only solidifies my claims.
every time i watch it just makes my day! This video deserves more views on youtube than all david hayes videos put together
No you are wrong, he didn't became a mega star by himself, we bought the fights and he used to deliver it, not anymore, and he got the opportunity from some other fighter first, Barrera comes to mind, if he became an arrogant cherry picker now, is this good for his legacy? He has millions already, why keep fighting the same type of damaged boxers? You will think that a mega star like Pac should be fighting on PPV, but no, I think not even HBO pick up this fight, what does it say about his choice of opponent? If we as fans let our idols get away with this $hit, we will never see them in a competitive fight ever again, look at what is happening with Juanma and Gamboa, ahh, they have the same friking promoter.
Again you are assuming something about me, the outcome of those fights are irrelevant to me, I don't care who wins I just want to watch a fight that we don't know who is going to win, we can hope is our fighter but we are not sure, just like Gamboa vs Juanma, I wish is Gamboa but I'm not sure, do you follow my thoughts now? Is no hate involve here only knowledge of the boxing game and a few valid points a least from where I'm sitting, until one of you comes up with a valid point refuting my post I'll not change my mind, insults will not work save that for another time.
DLH was a damaged over the hill with a lots of money ex-fighter, Hatton again was damaged goods just like a drained Cotto, Clottey and Marg he could had fought Williams and Martinez or Berto or Angulo or any other in his prime fighter, he only choose those fighters after they were demolished and he is keeping up the good work with Mosley.
lmaooo a lot of fighter has loss in the past. Pac has loss 3 times in his career and no one is saying he is damage goods even though he has a lot of tough fights in his career. martinez and williams are middleweight last time i check. Berto fight can happen as soon as berto sign with top rank. Angulo? are you freaking kidding me?
No I'm not kidding you ,Angulo is a better option than Mosley, Martinez said he will do 154lbs for Pacs 154lbs belt and Williams can move between 147-160lbs, you had seen it, when Pac loss he was staring his career and I think he was a little underweight too, losing to singsurat was not a shame and he didn't took too many blows in that fight, a body shot and that was all she wrote, he was fighting for the flyweight belt, with Torrecampo he never saw the punch, he was out before hitting the canvas and the Morales fight nothing wrong to be schooled by a master, he learn his lesson well.
They keep chanting their mantra, but the truth is that this is by far the strongest heavyweight era in history. Most of the hyped up champs of the past would look tiny in the ring with today's champs, especially the amazing Klitschko brothers, and the best they could do would be to try to run away, as Haye did with Valuev. Russians and eastern Europeans, and even black Africans and Cuban expats, were not even competing before the 1990's. They are now and the results are all to evident. But the controlled US media keeps leading the mantra chant, parroted on these boxing forums - and the reasons are obvious.
Believe me, I was just as pissed as u are. But, the truth is, Manny is not a fighter any more, at least full time. He is a politician when he is not training for a fight. i had many battles here on ESB about Manny and his cherry picking ways. But, i'm done with it. I accept it now the way he is. A politican, part time fighter. That is what it is now. There was an article saying why Manny hasn't fought Floyd, yet. He fought Cotto, instead. Because if he lost the fight with Mayweather, he would have not won the election in the Philippines. This is coming from his political advisers.
So you think Page, thomas, Tim, Holmes, Norton, Foreman and others were small? And big doesn't transalate into quality, Carnera was a big HW and got beat by smallers HW's.